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But what is winning in Afghanistan? In Iraq there are at least cities. There is nothing in Afghanistan.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
But what is winning in Afghanistan? In Iraq there are at least cities. There is nothing in Afghanistan.


You should listen more intently.


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But what is winning in Afghanistan? In Iraq there are at least cities. There is nothing in Afghanistan.


You should listen more intently.



Very few of the cities even have electricity. It's the stone age.

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Originally Posted by TBREW401
What is the definition of insanity?--- doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.


And over and

over again.


What are we thinking?


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Originally Posted by FatCity67
Just exactly do you want Trump to do? Create a black hole? It's his damn mess now that he has to clean up. Give him at least the frigging opportunity and some damn support to clean this mess up. I don't believe Mattis is a Globalist.



No Black hole they will just crawl out of it.

I would be OK with the Glass field as long as they make every country in the area against the United States Of America a Glass country.
It will be harder for them to crawl out of that.

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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
Breibart is wrong. Globalists have been sent packing. No nation building, no timetables, no announcements, just a result oriented policy. The moronic media will know after it happens.

This is really good news.


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Wow, did anyone hear Miss Lindsey tonight? He was on fire for Trump!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5390333936001/?#sp=show-clips


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Other than the change of ROE, the biggest take away for me was Trump holding Pakistan accountable and enlisting the help of India. That is a huge difference in the last two President's tactics. This is going to be big when Pakistan comes crawling to Trump (much like China and North Korea)


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Wow, did anyone hear Miss Lindsey tonight? He was on fire for Trump!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5390333936001/?#sp=show-clips

Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Wow, did anyone hear Miss Lindsey tonight? He was on fire for Trump!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5390333936001/?#sp=show-clips


That just shows how black his queer little heart is. The only thing that gets him going is the promise of more war.

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One month after conquering the Afghan military forces, we should have taken whatever punitive action thought appropriate and loudly declared victory. Bring the boys home, then ticker tape parade. Threaten a repeat in the future, if needed. End of story.

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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Other than the change of ROE, the biggest take away for me was Trump holding Pakistan accountable and enlisting the help of India. That is a huge difference in the last two President's tactics. This is going to be big when Pakistan comes crawling to Trump (much like China and North Korea)


Pakistan and India will not be easy...


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Other than the change of ROE, the biggest take away for me was Trump holding Pakistan accountable and enlisting the help of India. That is a huge difference in the last two President's tactics. This is going to be big when Pakistan comes crawling to Trump (much like China and North Korea)


This. A 4K plus up, NO NATION BUILDING, changing ROE and a GOAL is a strategy I can accept. Like I mentioned in my OP, no easy answer, except the obama strategy was by design, bad for us.


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This can't just be a coincidence.

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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER

Pakistan and India will not be easy...


Watch and see, especially Pakistan. As far as India is concerned, did you know they paid for the entire construction of the Afghani Parliament (a waste for sure0 and gov't buildings?


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
I'm not a globalist by any stretch and I've been saying we need to go and sort out Iran since the 70s...



Exactly. Every administration keeps avoiding the primary source..........


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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
One month after conquering the Afghan military forces, we should have taken whatever punitive action thought appropriate and loudly declared victory. Bring the boys home, then ticker tape parade. Threaten a repeat in the future, if needed. End of story.



Newt:: "If the United States pulls completely out of Afghanistan, it could leave a vacuum that would be filled by "some combination of ISIS, al-Qaida, and the Taliban...
"We are in the long-term struggle with terrorism, with Islamist supremacists...We know that the last time we allowed Afghanistan to be an empty space, it was filled with the Taliban and by al-Qaida and the planning for 9/11 was done in Afghanistan."


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The one thing I did like is when Trump said there will be no discussion about troop level and military strategy and only the conditions on the ground will dictate our actions, as opposed to some political poll or the desires of the media.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
One month after conquering the Afghan military forces, we should have taken whatever punitive action thought appropriate and loudly declared victory. Bring the boys home, then ticker tape parade. Threaten a repeat in the future, if needed. End of story.


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The "just kill enough to make them stop fighting" idea worked so well in Korea that it's been military policy every since. cool


















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Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
One month after conquering the Afghan military forces, we should have taken whatever punitive action thought appropriate and loudly declared victory. Bring the boys home, then ticker tape parade. Threaten a repeat in the future, if needed. End of story.


+100


So now we have two people who don't understand how that has never worked...


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