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The Left is pissed off, but they do not realize who they are really angry with. They vent their anger at Trump, but that only serves to frustrate them more, because they must make up stuff to hate him for. Really, what has he done to harm them? Trump in many ways is pretty moderate.

The source of there anger is really Hillary Clinton. She was in a position to give the Left 16 continuous years of control to fundamentally alter America forever and she blew it! THAT is really what has infuriated them. They can't lash out at her because she is done for. Instead they go after Trump.


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Not to mention war chest donations for the next election cycles are about half of the GOP's to date.......


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Originally Posted by hatari
The Left is pissed off, but they do not realize who they are really angry with. They vent their anger at Trump, but that only serves to frustrate them more, because they must make up stuff to hate him for. Really, what has he done to harm them? Trump in many ways is pretty moderate.

The source of there anger is really Hillary Clinton. She was in a position to give the Left 16 continuous yours of control to fundamentally alter America forever and she blew it! THAT is really what has infuriated them. They can't lash out at her because she is done for. Instead they go after Trump.


No.

The cannot lash out at her, because they are not introspective enough to consider there could be anything wrong with their fundamental world view. An attack upon here, would be an attack upon themselves, which is something the snowflakes cannot handles, so they attach the leader of the largest out group, Donald Trump.


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Interesting points, for sure. I tend to agree with Hatari but A sniper's point is not far removed from his.


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They're insane, how do you figger that out?

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Both you and Sniper are right. they are crazy and are in denial that it is their own policies that were rejected last November. "How could this be" they ask.


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Who gives a flying [bleep]. Deep thoughts by Jack Handy don't solve sheit


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The democrats are pissed that they lost the election and world domination.

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And thank GOD the people of this country which believe in it came out and voted.

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Who gives a flying [bleep]. Deep thoughts by Jack Handy don't solve sheit

Identifying the problem is the first part of solving it.

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They're the product of years of liberal takeover of our education system. They've been taught the glories of communism and the evils of capitalism. Can we expect anything else?


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True. "How it ought to be" and "what actually works" are generally two different things. Making educated decisions requires that you look at both sides and weigh them out with logic. The left considers ideology to be the bottom line, which makes reality the enemy. The fact that nobody in history ever built anything worth a damn when working on just emotion and feel-good is irrelevant to them. Rainbows and hugs are great, sure, but they can't pay the bills. They often simply cannot stand the concept......


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Originally Posted by Toddly
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Who gives a flying [bleep]. Deep thoughts by Jack Handy don't solve sheit

Identifying the problem is the first part of solving it.

Ok, the OP is dillusional, how do you want to solve it?

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
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Who gives a flying [bleep]. Deep thoughts by Jack Handy don't solve sheit

Identifying the problem is the first part of solving it.

Ok, the OP is dillusional, how do you want to solve it?

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Who gives a flying [bleep]. Deep thoughts by Jack Handy don't solve sheit


If this doen't interest you, move along.

Good thing you aren't in the medical field. Diagnosing the condition is essential in building a treatment plan.


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Originally Posted by Toddly
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Who gives a flying [bleep]. Deep thoughts by Jack Handy don't solve sheit

Identifying the problem is the first part of solving it.

Ok, the OP is dillusional, how do you want to solve it?

The Fire brain trust is impressive



Take a nap.


See, impressive. Perhaps you or the OP can identify the left that are the problem? Who exactly should we be able to combat? Since we apparently have identified the problem don't you think it would be good to know who the problem is?


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Originally Posted by hatari
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Who gives a flying [bleep]. Deep thoughts by Jack Handy don't solve sheit


If this doen't interest you, move along.

Good thing you aren't in the medical field. Diagnosing the condition is essential in building a treatment plan.


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You want to add to the discussion, or just bitch and moan today?

You know Scott, Pugs says you're a good guy - in person. You're a Coastie, which is big in my book since I worked with them and for them, which makes me give Pugs the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes you bring good things to a discussion, however if you don't have anything constructive to add, your default setting is belligerent a-hole mode. So that leaves me in a dilemma. Do I engage you as a good guy with a sharp wit, or as an a-hole?

Want to tell me what about how my original post is "delusional"? I've started talking to a few of the emotional "trump haters" and when I pose the question "What has Trump done to ruin your life so far", they have nothing. When I've asked them are they really angry with Trump, or more angry that Hillary blew a sure thing, they finally get to the point that they are super angry that Hillary blew the election.


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What is really behind all the turmoil is the left's dedication to destroying America. Communism is not dead at all, but alive and well. For many years, they have controlled the press and education from K through PhD. They control most local governments. Nikita Khrushchev was right when he said they would bury America.
The tactics shown daily across the Country are straight out of the 1917 Bolshevik play book. The operating philosophy and marching orders come from Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
Simple as that, really.


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This, but there IS a lot of rage because Hillary lost as well. It's the same crowd since the post war era. Anti-nuke, global cooling and now warming, anti-Vietnam war, pro Castro/Commie, they are ALL the same. Enemies of the American Way Of Life and now with three generations of idiots brainwashed by our educational system, "it's all about me" generation, all of a sudden they can't fathom the fact they LOST and they can't handle it...


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Nah. They hate America, and Trump is supported by folks who love America. That's why they hate him.

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Nah. They hate America, and Trump is supported by folks who love America. That's why they hate him.


Yes, there is a strong element to this.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Who gives a flying [bleep]. Deep thoughts by Jack Handy don't solve sheit



I've got a meeting in a while. Now that it's on my mind there's no way I'll make it through the entire meeting without working in a Jack Handy reference.....thanks Scott.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
This, but there IS a lot of rage because Hillary lost as well. It's the same crowd since the post war era. Anti-nuke, global cooling and now warming, anti-Vietnam war, pro Castro/Commie, they are ALL the same. Enemies of the American Way Of Life and now with three generations of idiots brainwashed by our educational system, "it's all about me" generation, all of a sudden they can't fathom the fact they LOST and they can't handle it...



I'm convinced they hate themselves as much as they hate us. They just hate.

Told my kids yesterday if they ever wondered why I disliked the 60's like I do they can see it for themselves in these current protests and protesters. Deja Vu all over again.


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I cant explain all this hate, and all of the sudden. All the hate for America and way of life.
I dont get it.


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my humble view, not at all that dissonant from the other thoughts here, is that the demo's are punishing us southerners for supporting trump and not their arkansas first lady. we are the gun & bible folks, and they hate both. and we represent that group. to punish us for supporting trump, they riot and take down the confederate flags & statues. that'll teach us for sure.

little do they realize that as events unfold, we support trump more and more. he is better than hillary. but he does not quite represent perfection. not yet anyways.


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I don't give a sheit WHY. The violence must stop. Trying to be nice, ain't gonna cut it. We have to make them hurt. They can be as pissed as they want to be. Lay your hands on me or my stuff, and it's gonna hurt.

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They were so sure they had it their way for another eight years and then the big weight of defeat hit them in one night and they still can't believe they were rejected. Their world views were crushed in one night and they are still in denial that they actually lost when the main stream media had already given them victory weeks before the election. This election was one of the greatest moments in my Life. God i love it. Go Trump and don't cut these chicken chit Dem's and Rino's any slack.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
What is really behind all the turmoil is the left's dedication to destroying America. Communism is not dead at all, but alive and well. For many years, they have controlled the press and education from K through PhD. They control most local governments. Nikita Khrushchev was right when he said they would bury America.
The tactics shown daily across the Country are straight out of the 1917 Bolshevik play book. The operating philosophy and marching orders come from Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
Simple as that, really.


Agree for the far the Left activists. I'm referring more to Democrats who think their Party is the better one, but work, raise kids, and think they are working for a kinder better World. They want to Save the Planet and buy into just getting along with everyone in the World, even ISIS. They just are misunderstood. The reality is those Democrats don't understand ISIS, the environment, effects of unchecked immigration, or restrict regulations that choke jobs. As long as they don't see problems in their neighbor, we should just all get along.

They are the ones I'm referencing. These are not the ones that are marching with ANTIFA, and don't really know what that is all about, except they hate Trump, so much be ok. They have no idea who George Soros is, but if they Google him, he seems ok. It's this group that hates on Bush, but if you ask them directly, they'll realize it is their own Party that failed them, and that is why they are depressed and angry.


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Originally Posted by Dre
I cant explain all this hate, and all of the sudden. All the hate for America and way of life.
I dont get it.



Manifestation of self loathing.



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I cant explain all this hate, and all of the sudden. All the hate for America and way of life.
I dont get it.



Manifestation of self loathing.



Yep.


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Search youtube for Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy. Life changing wisdom....well, maybe not....

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The rank and file, low income, low information Democrat base has been duped and caught in a modern version of servitude (slavery) by the very politicians they support and the very policies they support. Every statistical indicator and all empirical evidence shows that the socialist policies both advocated for, by the left, and implemented by both parties have created a perpetual system that relegates those who depend on it to a life of no improvement. Somehow these people believe that an increased volume of "the same" will improve their lot in life. Democrat and socialist politicians are to blame for all of this. Unfortunately, all it takes is a little verbal slight-of-hand to place the blame on conservatives. Conservatism, especially economic conservatism, has worked every time it has been implemented. Socialism, on the other hand, has failed every time it has been implemented. Those are facts, and they are ignored.


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Originally Posted by hatari
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What is really behind all the turmoil is the left's dedication to destroying America. Communism is not dead at all, but alive and well. For many years, they have controlled the press and education from K through PhD. They control most local governments. Nikita Khrushchev was right when he said they would bury America.
The tactics shown daily across the Country are straight out of the 1917 Bolshevik play book. The operating philosophy and marching orders come from Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
Simple as that, really.


Agree for the far the Left activists. I'm referring more to Democrats who think their Party is the better one, but work, raise kids, and think they are working for a kinder better World. They want to Save the Planet and buy into just getting along with everyone in the World, even ISIS. They just are misunderstood. The reality is those Democrats don't understand ISIS, the environment, effects of unchecked immigration, or restrict regulations that choke jobs. As long as they don't see problems in their neighbor, we should just all get along.

They are the ones I'm referencing. These are not the ones that are marching with ANTIFA, and don't really know what that is all about, except they hate Trump, so much be ok. They have no idea who George Soros is, but if they Google him, he seems ok. It's this group that hates on Bush, but if you ask them directly, they'll realize it is their own Party that failed them, and that is why they are depressed and angry.


Agree whole heartedly. I work with a bunch of democrats and it always amazes me how they think everyone, no matter what their ethnic background, religion or upbringing, has the same belief set/goals/morals as they do. They don't seem to get the fact that there are people on this earth who view kindness or benevolence as a weakness to be exploited and that the only thing some cultures or people understand is violence

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Agree for the far the Left activists. I'm referring more to Democrats who think their Party is the better one, but work, raise kids, and think they are working for a kinder better World. They want to Save the Planet and buy into just getting along with everyone in the World, even ISIS. They just are misunderstood. The reality is those Democrats don't understand ISIS, the environment, effects of unchecked immigration, or restrict regulations that choke jobs. As long as they don't see problems in their neighbor, we should just all get along.

They are the ones I'm referencing. These are not the ones that are marching with ANTIFA, and don't really know what that is all about, except they hate Trump, so much be ok. They have no idea who George Soros is, but if they Google him, he seems ok. It's this group that hates on Bush, but if you ask them directly, they'll realize it is their own Party that failed them, and that is why they are depressed and angry.

and let's not forget that the establishment GOP hates Trump even more than the dhimmicrats do. The GOP is sabotaging most of what The Donald is trying to accomplish. Congress, both sides of the aisle, is enabling and encouraging National suicide.


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I believe there are many levels of hate involved.

Some hate because it is a trendy thing to do.

Some hate because their side lost an election and their grasp on power has slipped dramatically.
Some hate because their hold on ideals and talking points that give them power has slipped,even as their side has gained in influence.

Some of all of these folks just hate because others are successful and they just can't stand it.

Last of all some hate because they think that by getting paid a few dollars they will become relevant.

In all of the groups that hate the bottom line is they are just unhappy unless they get a chance to screw up someone else's life.
They are some lonely folks not happy with themselves.

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The left is scared all the free stuff will be cut off and they will have to earn a living.


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The left is not mad at Hillary. There's nothing she could ever do to lose her appeal to them, short of switching to the GOP, and we all know that's not happening. The left is pizzed because White America recognized the danger of a Hillary Clinton presidency, and elected Trump. There is no doubt in my mind that as many people cast their vote as one against Hillary, as did those who were voting because they liked Trump. The left knows this, the news media knows this, and the politicians know this, and their reaction is one of "how dare you". This is an attack on the White man, which is why the Confederate statues are being targeted. Why weren't these statues targeted when Obama was president? Think about it.......what better time to go after them, when there was a Black man sitting in the presidency. All Obama had to do was to say, take them down, and it would have been done. But, they didn't give a damn about Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson then, so why now. It's because they are looking for anything now that they think will let them go after the Whites who elected Trump, and those statues are suddenly "offensive".

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Whatever it is, they sure aren't getting over it.
Last Sunday morning, my wife's liberal aunt came [1st time] to church a bunch of us have started attending this year with another niece of hers. We always sit in the same seats and they got there first. She saw us coming started grinning real big and said "I'm not moving" which didn't bother me in the least. A few minutes later I leaned forward and whispered into her ear 'you'll get over it eventually'. I could see the red on her ears. grin
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I think they are angry because they've been exposed. All the things they hold dear: high taxes, gov't run health care, gov't run education, abortion on demand, the evil of gun ownership, etc., etc., etc.; have all been shown to be morally and intellectually bankrupt. They were given the keys to the car and ran it into the ditch. We are getting it out and on the road again. Like the spoiled brats that they are, they are throwing tantrums and lashing out at anything they can come up with that they think is not perfectly right. They are on a quest to re-establish their moral and intellectual bona fides. I don't think they have turned a single voter against Trump; in fact, I suspect more and more Americans are seeing the wisdom of having elected him.


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Time for another Kent State on steroids? Break out the water cannons?

Peaceful protest I can handle, let them march, chant and sing. But when they get violent authority needs to get more violent IMHO.

They are abusing freedoms that one hell of a lot of REAL Americans have bled and died for DAMMIT!


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and let's not forget that the establishment GOP hates Trump even more than the dhimmicrats do. The GOP is sabotaging most of what The Donald is trying to accomplish. Congress, both sides of the aisle, is enabling and encouraging National suicide.


Which is unfathomable to me. Without Trump, the GOP would probably not have the Senate and likely lose the House by 2018. If your Party is not in power, you do not chair any committees, you make no legislation, and at best all you can do is obstruct or cut deals that make the best of a bad situation. This is why you see many long standing Senators and Congressmen bail when there is a shift of power in DC. They lose their power positions and then run off to become lobbyists.

Why on Earth would any in the GOP want Trump to fail? If Trump goes down, they go down. Are they stupid enough to think the Libs will love and reward them when they win? This is part of the inexplicable lunacy that exists right now.


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one thing for sure, the establishment is there for a reason. it's because the majority, over time, elected reps from both parties that supported the "status quo." now, people have spoken and rejected the status quo. backlash from the far left, and it's fair to say backlash from the right got the status quo relegated to the dust bin. or at least assigned to it, but not yet deposited in it.

if the establishment politicians are to be taught a lesson and sent home, it'll take a turn out of the voters who are disaffected by the establishment/status quo politicians and their policies. and that's when the fight started.


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The politicians on the right only present the public with the illusion of resistance to the liberal agenda. They are on the same page with the liberals.


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The more I think about it I think the left breaks down into three main groups:

1) The "give me somethings" who will vote for whichever party they think will give them the most free benefits no matter what the long term cost and detriment is. They're too lazy and/or ignorant to really take advantage of a better economy so they don't really care about it and they don't worry about international relations because they never travel outside their own neighborhoods.

2) The soccer mom/metrosexual crowd. Stereotypical surburbanites that may be decent people but are just incredibly naive and not to bright about thinking for themselves. Tend to go with what ever sounds good and/or is socially acceptable rather than dealing with the gritty realities of life. There is a lot of cross over between this group and a lot of the "republican party".

3) The Far left/Antifa type people. these are the weirdos that everyone made fun of in high school. 30 years ago they all would've been down in their parents basement sniffing glue and playing dungeons and dragons but now thanks to the internet they've been able to find each other and somewhat band together. Some of these are legitimately evil people , but the vast majority are just idiots that think its cool to be "different" and will go with what ever they think upsets society.

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Hat, i dont think they have rage. They a commies who want to destroy the US. Oh, some of the dumb ones have rage that gas been built on by their puppet masters telling them how bad they have it.


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ol bernie's crowd was as upset with the mainstream demo's as with the so=called free market republicans. times they are a-changin'. ol bob dylan knew that 40 years ago.

old ideas die hard. it'll be good to see which ideologies make the cut, so to speak.


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Last time I looked there was a significant difference between "rage" and "hate". Which is it that we are seeing - really - and if there are multiple stimuli, which are truly key?


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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Who's Jack Handy?


Search youtube for Deep Thoughts by Jack Handy. Life changing wisdom....well, maybe not....



It was a SNL skit years ago, noted for it's platitudes that sounded like something but in fact were vacuus. You may find examples of it right here on the Fire occasionally.


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