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You have to remember there`s a difference between a 1/2 inch rifle and a 1/2 inch shooter. Being a 1/2 inch shooter is much more difficult to become...at any range. Seen this many times when shooting HP. 90% of the shooters blame the 1/2 inch gun..and never won a match. Shooting at game with that mentality could have very painfull results for the game, and an animal never recovered. I find very few hunters shoot enough to become proficent with the guns used..many cause they do not have a place to shoot, but long range shooting/hunting attracts many of these folks. A man needs to know HIS limitations.
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By the time accuracy matters, wind matters a lot more. Nothing wrong with wanting it all, but there is such a thing as putting all your efforts into the wrong area. Shaving .100" off a hundred yard group might be an entertaining hobby, but the chances of it changing your long range hunting success is about zero. Cut your wind drift in half with cartridge and bullet choice and you are starting to get somewhere. Improving your first round wind-calls will do more than months of load development.
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.5 MOA rifle to 1000 yards. MOA needed? zero. i hunt.
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Congrats Federica! You gonna fill in some details?
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MOA needed zero i hunt too.
Bear truck is windy i wanted but wasn't.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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MOA needed zero i hunt too.
Bear truck is windy i wanted but wasn't. LMAO. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Smoke 300 WM 210 LRAB 140 yards. one bear tag down one to go. 73grain of retumbo cci250. Rifle is a stiller predator action Douglas and 1-11t in a McMillan stock. Hig you think drink for meow here kitty kitty. Lmao. talk to type sucks. Oh that was a bear for the guys standing on the sidelines. No guide on fancy bs just killing. Stay tuned it's just getting started. I have tags that look like a coupon book. Lol.
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All your tags are belong to us.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Hig how does your tag load look. We will have 7 elk hanging before November ends. Deer don't stand a chance. And every rifle I field shoots sub MOA to 1000. You would be surprised how a little practice and a keen eye rings X's. Oh and notice the fat joules lmfao.
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Got a few good ones this year though it only takes one of the California tags to fill a wallet. Damn things are huge.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Got a few good ones this year though it only takes one of the California tags to fill a wallet. Damn things are huge.
Best of luck post pictures.
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A deer's kill zone is 12" so I make that my target size (12" plate) and have to be able to put shots within half of that at the longest distance I'll shoot.
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The Gunwerks guys say a seven-shot group no larger than 0.75 MOA is the gold standard.
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The Gunwerks guys say a seven-shot group no larger than 0.75 MOA is the gold standard.
P Looks like I'm there with my .270 !
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The Gunwerks guys say a seven-shot group no larger than 0.75 MOA is the gold standard.
P Looks like I'm there with my .270 ! Post some pics of those groups. Please... A 3/4 moa 7 shot group consistent rifle is pretty good. I can see why that would be a gold standard.. 1 moa 10 shot groups are my "gold standard". As are Sub moa 5 shot groups and I don't shoot 3 shot groups too often. I'm also sure they meant "consistent" accuracy. Day in day out. 5 groups on the same paper/target with appropriate poa/poi. Like this for example: We can all get lucky every once in a while and pull off a damn nice group with damn near any good rifle. But to find one that shoots good consistently, that is the one you want/keep...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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