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Getting closer and closer to my date with a Big Northern BC Moose. I leave Sept.12 for my hunt with Gunson Outfitters just a few miles from the Yukon Border...Pretty much got my gear nailed down, almost to where i need to be fitness/weight wise, and have a pretty good handle on the travel/logistics. Wanted to run this by you all to make sure I am on the right track with permits, importing, ect.

1. Going into Canada and Back to US - need a US 4457 Declarations Form showing guns and valuables stamped and signed.
2. Going into Canada - Non Resident Firearm Declarations - Have it filled out but don't sign until at the border. Will also have a $25-$50 fee.
3. Coming back into US - US Fish and Wildlife Deceleration form filled out for moose meat. Also will need my hunting lisc. and tag.
4. Meat cant be cut and wrapped. I will have a freezer in the back of my truck that I will put all moose meat in and process once I am back in the states.

Missing anything here? Outfitter is taking care of hunting lisc. and tags.

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I am headed up there the same time, hunting moose with Stone Mountain Safaris.

Big question - Why can the meat not be cut and wrapped? If I have time, I would like to process all the meat myself, freeze and bring back in the coolers I am bringing.

I am hauling two 150 quart Coleman extreme coolers to handle the job.

The rest of your list looks good. I would add
5. US Passport and Driver's license (both current).
6. Your copy of your Hunting Contract with outfitter and itinerary

Best of luck! I hunt the same week as you, but will be near Toad Lake, B.C. Post your pics!


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One point. Make a photo of both passport and driving license and put in a different spot in your luggage. Also, leave a copy at home, where it can be faxed if necessary. Things have been lost and it gets interesting fast. Have fun on your hunts.


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I have brought back my moose and caribou meat processed on one occasion. I had filled the tags early and the outfitter was going into town. He took it to the processor with my instructions. After the hunt I picked it up, threw it into the freezer and turned the generator on. It sure was convenient. The agent at the border never looked in the freezer. As far as I know there is no problem with processed meat. Have your receipt from the processor.
Last year I brought the meat back unprocessed in a freezer with the temp set at 35 degrees.

The Canada - Non Resident Firearm Declarations cost $25 Canadian.

Best of luck to you. Enjoy your hunt.

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Usually less problem with cut/wrapped meat than with quarters etc.......changes with reports of CWD or other wildlife diseases.

Form 4457 is executed with US Customs prior to entering Canada.

When driving from MN/SD back to AK, I do a USFWS form 3-177 to prove I didn't harvest pheasants or whitetails in Canada.

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Word of warning if you buy a a wolf tag and shoot a wolf it is a long and expensive process getting it home due to Cites laws. I have close to $1000.00 in mine so far. Once in a lifetime animal for me so It is worth it. But I wasn't expecting it to be so expensive. My bad for not doing my homework.


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I am going to Newfoundland for moose in late October, so this is great info! I am planning on driving there, which is a first for me on a Canada trip. Should I be aware of any differences between crossing borders with firearms and meat (I've never taken meat home from a hunt in Canada before)?


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Justin I have only been up there once but going into Canada with firearms was easy. I already filled out the sheet but hadnt signed it. I had the guns in hard cases with locks on the cases and trigger locks just to be on the safe side. I pulled up to the terminal they asked why I was coming into Canada when I told them hunting they asked if I had firearms. They said pull forward and park and bring in firearm sheet but not the firearms themselves. I went in they looked at passport and sheet I singed the sheet and paid them 25.00 loonies. They said be safe and have a good trip. Easy as pie in and out in 15 minutes max. Coming back into the states they asked why I went to Canada. Had me park and bring in hunting tags and other paperwork outfitter provided. They check my passport and asked a few questions. Came out and had me pull one cooler of boned out frozen moose meat they glanced into cooler and let me go on my way. Probably took 30 minutes.


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Originally Posted by shortside
I am headed up there the same time, hunting moose with Stone Mountain Safaris.

Big question - Why can the meat not be cut and wrapped? If I have time, I would like to process all the meat myself, freeze and bring back in the coolers I am bringing.

I am hauling two 150 quart Coleman extreme coolers to handle the job.

The rest of your list looks good. I would add
5. US Passport and Driver's license (both current).
6. Your copy of your Hunting Contract with outfitter and itinerary

Best of luck! I hunt the same week as you, but will be near Toad Lake, B.C. Post your pics!


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A word of warning.

I've read that a passport must not be within 6 months of expiring to truly be valid.

It makes not sense to me. Seems it should be good to go if not expired, but that's what Ive read. Might be worth a call to Customs/Immigration.


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For the meat question, in the past (still happens today but at a lesser degree) some folks slaughtered moose and others illegally or not (native) and sold the meat out all packed. People came into Canada for "hunting" on paper but just bought the meat and encouraged those practices. Moose, mother moose, baby moose don't matters to them, just kill everything to sell as meat. Normally the officer must be able to see that the meat belongs to a single animal slain, and you have the permit for it. In normal hunting season, once we down one, we bring the head and quarters back from the wood directly to the office to declare it and then they punch a nice ear clip on the head to confirm the legality of it. In a nutshell, it's an anti-poaching measure.

For the other question, you seemed to be set on track. If i can only specify one more thing is to be aware walking around with a rifle, i included a few nice video link to explain the Canadian's weird laws. I also suggest a hard case (like a pelican) with desiccant and/or a gun sock, have everything locked. In case snow is around or raining; can also bring a few ziplock to put on scope for easier transition cold-hot without condensation on lens.

storage - https://youtu.be/DV898O77BZY
transport - https://youtu.be/11_ZhCDnhIo


*edit* i just realized the type of Canadian firearm might be confusing in those video. You are "non-restricted" with rifle, forget info about "restricted" since it concern only pistols and AR type in general.

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Ironbender,

i do not know for the passport but i crossed last week to go to Haines with my passport expiring in August this year and i was able to go back to Canada. tue US didnt even bother...

to the OP:

for the meat what is important is no bones at all and of course no brain part or they will destroy it at the border. you may need like in Yukon an export permit for the meat, the skin and the tropy.

please do check with your outfitter as for now there is a lot of fires.

good luck.

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A word of warning.

I've read that a passport must not be within 6 months of expiring to truly be valid.

It makes not sense to me. Seems it should be good to go if not expired, but that's what Ive read. Might be worth a call to Customs/Immigration.






Not true. There was a rumor about this floating around about this last year so I asked about it when I got to the border. The passport just has to be valid upon your return to the states. Unless you are going to be out of the county past the date of expiration...no worries.

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Hunted Newfoundland. Brought back 3 moose on different occasions. Each was processed and frozen. Never a problem. Border folks were polite and professional both ways. Had a great time and returning for my 80th birthday present to myself.

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Yeah. I've brought back quite a bit of meat over the years from BC and it was all cut, wrapped, frozen. I've never had any issue getting it through the border. Just have all your tags and hunting forms. If you're afraid it's going to be an issue, stop on the US side before crossing and discuss it with them.

I plan to have moose/goat cut/wrapped/frozen on board in a few weeks myself.

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Originally Posted by 7mmMato
Word of warning if you buy a a wolf tag and shoot a wolf it is a long and expensive process getting it home due to Cites laws. I have close to $1000.00 in mine so far. Once in a lifetime animal for me so It is worth it. But I wasn't expecting it to be so expensive. My bad for not doing my homework.


My son and I each shot a wolf one year in BC. We couldn't stay long enough to complete the CITES permit, so we were going to have it shipped once the permits were done. Found out what that was going to cost and told the outfitter to keep dispose of them any way he saw fit. Wasn't going to be in almost $2000 for sub prime wolves. If I had known, we were back the next spring and I could have brought them back across the border myself at very little expense. If I get another wolf, I will plan to have it tanned in BC and pick it up myself on a return trip.


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