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While camping last weekend I shot about 30 arrows at 50 yards, my maximum range. I had two arrows go left of the Block target and vanish like a fart in the wind. I don't know what happens to these arrows, they must disintegrate into dust. There was nothing behind my target for 100 yards but short grass. Me and the kids looked off and on for two hours.

Anyway, headed out to Collbran, Colorado on Friday for a week of archery either sex elk on private land with National Forest access as well.

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At 50 yards, if you were shooting from the ground, the arrows probably buried themselves at a very flat angle, and went just under the grass. Due to physic, they always end up in a straight line from where you shot the arrow. I accidently launched an arrow by having my release a little too light. I just walked a straight line and found the arrow in ground about 800 ft away. I was in the back yard, and the arrow thankfully went over 2 houses and landed in an empty lot.

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How do you hunt without loosing an arrow?

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You finger rake across the suspected line of travel in the grass, spaced at arrow length.
Of course, you're raking for field tipped arrows.

You won't see 'em, but you'll feel em.
Carbons can skip a ways before burying.

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It's "losing" not "loosing"
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Loosing'em, good.

Losing'em, bad.

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Originally Posted by mathman
How do you hunt without loosing an arrow?


MM,

I have done a LOT of hunting without loosing an arrow...or bullet for that matter...


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Compared to the cost of reloading and target shooting with a gun, losing an occasional arrow is cheap.


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Sounds like maybe your max needs to be 40 yards.....


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Compared to the cost of reloading and target shooting with a gun, losing an occasional arrow is cheap.



You priced an arrow and a mechanical broadhead lately ?

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Originally Posted by centershot
Sounds like maybe your max needs to be 40 yards.....

Thats worthy of a chuckle

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Originally Posted by hookeye
You finger rake across the suspected line of travel in the grass, spaced at arrow length.
Of course, you're raking for field tipped arrows.

You won't see 'em, but you'll feel em.
Carbons can skip a ways before burying.



Having done this more than a couple times... I use a leaf rake, the kind with springy metal tines. You can feel and hear when you hit the shaft.

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Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
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Sounds like maybe your max needs to be 40 yards.....

Thats worthy of a chuckle


I got one.

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Set up an aluminum can on the ground at 50 and shoot it with a Zwickey judo. As long as you have grass,you won't loose an arrow.

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I got me an arrow fetching dog. She was a lot better finding aluminum feathered arrows out of my recurve.

But she does find the carbon one outta the compound over half the time.


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Metal detector

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Originally Posted by Johnny Dollar
Originally Posted by mathman
How do you hunt without loosing an arrow?


MM,

I have done a LOT of hunting without loosing an arrow...or bullet for that matter...


True here too.

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Originally Posted by kcnboise
Originally Posted by hookeye
You finger rake across the suspected line of travel in the grass, spaced at arrow length.
Of course, you're raking for field tipped arrows.

You won't see 'em, but you'll feel em.
Carbons can skip a ways before burying.



Having done this more than a couple times... I use a leaf rake, the kind with springy metal tines. You can feel and hear when you hit the shaft.


I've been using a gravel rake real careful, but still have a hard time finding them. It's amazing how they can just disappear. I've never tried a leaf rake, that sounds like a better option. I'll have to try it.


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Originally Posted by Angus1895
I got me an arrow fetching dog. She was a lot better finding aluminum feathered arrows out of my recurve.

But she does find the carbon one outta the compound over half the time.


I used to have a black lab that always seemed to find them a few days later. The problem was that I'd find the arrow in the back yard somewhere all chewed up. cry


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I can usually find them by taking my shoes off and shuffling around the suspected area......


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laugh, loosing arrows is great exercise.

But yes, losing them sicks, expensive bastids.


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Originally Posted by xverminator
I can usually find them by taking my shoes off and shuffling around the suspected area......


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Don't try this if a BH was attached when you lost it, obviously..............


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x2 on the metal detector

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X-verminator... if you lose a broadhead and look for it with bare feet, just follow the blood trail ;-)

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now i know what happened to eddy when i found him dead with and arrow in between his eyes.

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Larger backstop? Larger target?


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Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Metal detector


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Lighted knocks might help but they are expensive too, so I would go the metal detector route

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They go to the same place that one sock might go to from your washer or dryer.


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I have a metal detector which I have used to find hundreds of arrows.

It is not all that unusual for an arrow to go completely under the surface of the ground. In fact, of what I have found I'd guess that 80% are completely buried. I have found arrows fully six inches down in dense sand. I have found arrows that went into the ground at a 45 degree angle and the nock was a couple inches under the surface with a 30 inch arrow. When I shoot my crossbow bolts into a bank of dense sand they almost always go in 20 inches which only leaves 2 inches sticking out. When I shoot a deer the bolts always go through and usually wind up 12 inches minimum into the sand at about a 20 degree angle. 500 grain FMJ bolts with a NAP Spitfire Doublecross on them on the three I have used now have all made it 20-22 inches.

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One of the fastest ways to get uninvited to hunt farm country is to lose arrows in an alfalfa field. The farmer's combine gets them and the broadhead and carbon fiber shards get ground up in with the silage.


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It’s hard not to lose an arrow every now and then. Putting target on a round bale works well.

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Originally Posted by Windfall
One of the fastest ways to get uninvited to hunt farm country is to lose arrows in an alfalfa field. The farmer's combine gets them and the broadhead and carbon fiber shards get ground up in with the silage.


OH CHIT!!!!! and a bill for three or four dead heads of cattle with a vet topsy stamp. shocked


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If if you used the broadside of a barn as a stop you'll still loose arrows in the grass smile

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Originally Posted by Spotshooter
If if you used the broadside of a barn as a stop you'll still loose arrows in the grass smile


Not if you shoot Zwickey Judo heads. They will be laying on top of the grass,not buried in it. Like I said before,I love to shoot 20 ounce plastic bottles on the ground with those heads. I also like to hang them up and shoot them. Grass stops the arrows fast. It will hit the grass and flip over and stop right there with my recurves that I shoot. I only shoot up to 60 lbs though. If you hit the hard bare ground with those Judo heads the arrow will skip a ways but on grass it will stop right where it first impacts and be on top of the grass.

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Originally Posted by Windfall
One of the fastest ways to get uninvited to hunt farm country is to lose arrows in an alfalfa field. The farmer's combine gets them and the broadhead and carbon fiber shards get ground up in with the silage.


I know a well known bow hunter that shot at a turkey in a farm yard in South Dakota. He missed th turkey and skipped the arrow off the ground. The arrow came to rest in the sidewall of the farmers tractor tire side wall.
That was as expensive as it was funny.


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