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#12253040 - 09/05/17 Grizzly Attack, Montana  
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http://www.ktvq.com/story/36294465/man-survives-grizzly-bear-attack-near-ennis

Always interesting, learning about & from these incidents. Am glad he's alive!

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#12253135 - 09/05/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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Didn't take long!! MT big game season just opened.


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#12253194 - 09/05/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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Out of state hunters, the other white meat. That comment was hilarious.


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#12253322 - 09/05/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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I can't imagine standing there with a big game rifle in hand waiting on a charging bear with an already bloody muzzle to get close enough for me to spray it with the pepper spray I've never tested.

#12253481 - 09/05/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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'Came upon a bear on a carcass and they began to yell'

Unless this is the usual piss poor use of the English language in the write-up by a news organization employee, then it seems the prudent thing would have been to quietly let the bear have at it and the hunters LEAVE the area.
I thought I saw a report elsewhere that they were bow hunters.

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#12253556 - 09/05/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: grovey]  
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Originally Posted by grovey
I can't imagine standing there with a big game rifle in hand waiting on a charging bear with an already bloody muzzle to get close enough for me to spray it with the pepper spray I've never tested.

Bow season. Not rifle season. The bears have been terrible in that neck of the woods this year. Killed a bunch of cattle.

#12253567 - 09/05/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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Damn, glad they both lived.

#12253599 - 09/05/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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Who would go into the woods without an adequate firearm? I do believe a hard cast from even a .357 to head of that offending bear would have changed its aggression.


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#12253619 - 09/05/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: LouisB]  
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Originally Posted by LouisB
'Came upon a bear on a carcass and they began to yell'

Unless this is the usual piss poor use of the English language in the write-up by a news organization employee, then it seems the prudent thing would have been to quietly let the bear have at it and the hunters LEAVE the area.
I thought I saw a report elsewhere that they were bow hunters.


Stupid hunters. Bear was busy on a carcass and they disturbed it. Scream at me during lunch and you'll get the same.


Never take life to seriously, after all ,no one gets out of it alive.
#12253930 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: sidepass]  
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Originally Posted by sidepass
Originally Posted by LouisB
'Came upon a bear on a carcass and they began to yell'

Unless this is the usual piss poor use of the English language in the write-up by a news organization employee, then it seems the prudent thing would have been to quietly let the bear have at it and the hunters LEAVE the area.
I thought I saw a report elsewhere that they were bow hunters.


Stupid hunters. Bear was busy on a carcass and they disturbed it. Scream at me during lunch and you'll get the same.




Pretty much what I was thinking...instead of yelling they should have been getting their spray ready and start a hasty, but quiet, retreat....


You want to see my ass vacate an A/O...show me a grizzly! cry


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#12253947 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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charging bear and you have rifle in hand????? uck peper spray

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They brought Bear spray to a gun fight.

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Originally Posted by ingwe

Pretty much what I was thinking...instead of yelling they should have been getting their spray ready and start a hasty, but quiet, retreat....


You want to see my ass vacate an A/O...show me a grizzly! cry


Yes, sir!

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Originally Posted by ragsflh
charging bear and you have rifle in hand????? uck peper spray


I don't think either of them had a rifle. Bowhunters I believe. But they had pepper spray and at least one handgun.

I think that pepper spray saved at least one life, if not both of their lives according to the article.

Regards, Guy

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My bear spray is filled with six .44 mag 300 grain bullets. I think my type of bear spray is more reliable and I don't have to worry about the wind etc. Regardless, every time I see a bear, I get the fak out unless I have a bear tag in a pocket and a rifle ready.

#12254241 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: ShakyHands]  
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How did we come to the conclusion that bears like pepper on their food? Maybe they prefer salt.


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#12254251 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: ingwe]  
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Originally Posted by ingwe
Pretty much what I was thinking...instead of yelling they should have been getting their spray ready and start a hasty, but quiet, retreat..

My thoughts as well. But this incident along with a few others only reinforces my skepticism about Bear Spray. When it works, it works, but it doesn't always seem to work.

#12254255 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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I'm sure any one of the above internet persona's would have taught that bear a valuable lesson. Laughing.

But luckily all of the grizzlies out there have little to worry about since none will be encountered from the comforts of your home.

#12254334 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: Ringman]  
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Originally Posted by Ringman
Who would go into the woods without an adequate firearm? I do believe a hard cast from even a .357 to head of that offending bear would have changed its aggression.

Simple really, they had the same chance as any deer hunter in Ohio. There is a law that says "no second weapon" when hunting deer. It is a stupid law, that defies common sense, and one I lobby to have revoked, but as it stands the only exception is a CCW, which not every hunter has. Knives are allowed, but not very effective if the need arose.


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#12254584 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: Ringman]  
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Originally Posted by Ringman
Who would go into the woods without an adequate firearm? I do believe a hard cast from even a .357 to head of that offending bear would have changed its aggression.


This is good in theory, but in reality, damn few people can shoot a charging grizzly in the head with a handgun-or a rifle for that matter. Even well-practiced police officers miss far more than they hit in close-range gun fights, when the excitement is high. Properly deployed bear spray has proven many times to be effective. It needs to be used correctly and also, it needs to be replaced after about three years to assure potency.


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#12254633 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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This wasn't the only coverage of the attack. According to other reports they did NOT shout at the bear before it charged, though they may have as it charged. One of the guys did have a handgun (legal in Montana when bowhunting) and drew it, but the bear knocked it out of his hand before he could shoot--which is when they tried to use pepper-spray.

Always love it when so many people who've never seen a grizzly talk about what the big handgun they'd be carrying in bear country--and how it would have solved the problem, pronto.

Also loved the comment from somebody who apparently didn't read this story, and assumed they were carrying rifles.


John

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#12254657 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: sbhooper]  
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Originally Posted by sbhooper
Originally Posted by Ringman
Who would go into the woods without an adequate firearm? I do believe a hard cast from even a .357 to head of that offending bear would have changed its aggression.


This is good in theory, but in reality, damn few people can shoot a charging grizzly in the head with a handgun-or a rifle for that matter. Even well-practiced police officers miss far more than they hit in close-range gun fights, when the excitement is high. Properly deployed bear spray has proven many times to be effective. It needs to be used correctly and also, it needs to be replaced after about three years to assure potency.


I was thinking about when the bear was on his buddy.


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#12254667 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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You mean when a grizzly and human are rolling around, connected by the bear's teeth around the human's head?


John

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#12254695 - 09/06/17 Re: Grizzly Attack, Montana [Re: GuyM]  
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i have been on the wrong end of the dance with a bear. those that think you have all the time in the world to sort out what to do are blowing smoke. the world takes on a fluid appearance and you are caught in quick sand. in my case there was no physical contact but i had a hard time walking away due to the load in my pants!
i am sure that it won't change anyone's opinion of bear spray or no bear spray but me and mine live with grizzlies 24/7/365 and we depend on it.
shoot and wound a 500 pound pizzed off bear and you are not going to improve his mood for the better. lay down a fog with the RIGHT spray between you and your chances improve . a 44 mag bullet is .429 inches in diameter. a 3ftx10 ft fog of spray is 30 square feet of barrier that can save you.
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