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Given the progress in internal combustion engine efficiency and the nearly unending supply of cheap oil to run them, electric cars are way too late to the party except for dummies who think that electricity is free/non-polluting and that highly-toxic batteries disappear once you stop charging them.

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There are 4 dams on the Snake River after it leaves Idaho and before it reaches the Columbia. All 4 have large power plants. There has been a push for years to remove the dams to restore salmon runs up the Snake which were obliterated by the dams. We'll never see another major dam built in this country so cheap, clean power generation is as high as it'll ever be right now. If the greenies keep pushing to remove dams, it will drop, not increase. Now that coal is a bad word, coal plants won't be built either. They're pushing us more and more toward unreliable wind power or nukes and nukes are as 'evil' as coal. As you drive down the Columbia River gorge, you can see thousands of wind mills. I've been through there many times when it's dead calm and none of them are turning. As you get into the Columbia Gorge scenic area, there's more wind but no windmills can be built there as they destroy the scenery.
Eventually the greenies are going to have to realize that we need power for all of those electric cars and it won't come from wind.


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Libs never think anything out. They've always pushed for higher fuel mileage, hybrids, and electric cars because they want to save the earth. That's fine, I get it. Nobody wants to pollute the earth and everyone wants to conserve energy. They forgot the part about people paying road taxes on gas and diesel. Less fuel purchases turns into less tax revenue. To compensate, they have to raise fuel taxes for the evil fossil fuel burners and the electric car guys skate free. If everything goes electric, who's going to pay for road improvements and construction?

Hydrogen fuel cells is going to be the future.


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So what happens when the electric grid that is designed to only handle so much power has a demand placed to charge everyone's electric car at the same time?

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Compare any modern car with a 1950 model. They keep inventing and improving and now we have cars that will last 3 times longer, get much better mileage, and keep you a lot safer, too. They'll keep working on electrics and little by little, they'll solve the problems and drawbacks and make them workable. It takes time, money, and some very smart people but they'll get it done. Tesla has done a lot to change electrics and they deserve a lot of applause.


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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Given the progress in internal combustion engine efficiency and the nearly unending supply of cheap oil to run them, electric cars are way too late to the party except for dummies who think that electricity is free/non-polluting and that highly-toxic batteries disappear once you stop charging them.


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Compare any modern car with a 1950 model. They keep inventing and improving and now we have cars that will last 3 times longer, get much better mileage, and keep you a lot safer, too. They'll keep working on electrics and little by little, they'll solve the problems and drawbacks and make them workable. It takes time, money, and some very smart people but they'll get it done. Tesla has done a lot to change electrics and they deserve a lot of applause.

Tesla has done a lot with tax payer subsidies and cash payments.


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As soon as tax subsidies stop, electric cars will be deader than buggy whips.


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so we've been using gas burners for over 100 years and people evacuating are having trouble finding gas. 45 min to charge per vehicle?
Sounds like a good idea.
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I'm still waiting for those flying cars they promised we'd all have by 1960.


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Electric cars cost way too much.

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Compare any modern car with a 1950 model. They keep inventing and improving and now we have cars that will last 3 times longer, get much better mileage, and keep you a lot safer, too. They'll keep working on electrics and little by little, they'll solve the problems and drawbacks and make them workable. It takes time, money, and some very smart people but they'll get it done. Tesla has done a lot to change electrics and they deserve a lot of applause.

Tesla has done a lot with tax payer subsidies and cash payments.



That's very true but I wonder how much is a kickback for Elon Musk and his Space X venture?? He's doing some pretty cool stuff, cutting edge.

My sons best friend just got his drivers license and his dad bought him a new Tesla. It kinda makes my first car (truck) look like I'm a redneck. 😉

I'd still take that old F150 Lariat with its 351 Cleveland. But if my son is riding with a new driver I suppose the Tesla is safer, even if it's $80,000 more than my truck. 😉


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IIRC, cold weather cuts the range of an electric car by a GREAT deal..... Maybe that will be engineered around at some point.... last I looked into it though, Winter use was pretty much impractical.


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