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Correct, but there are used ones out there reasonably priced. A 16ga Ithaca FWT?
For LW, their 28ga can't be beat if one were willing to go 28. They got it right for LW and balance.

Just noticed. You already have one.

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I think Remington had lightweight in mind when they introduced this one... Super fast dove and quail gun!

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...plus they're so much fun to tinker with!

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Originally Posted by longarm
Originally Posted by 300_savage
I think the old 20s were made on a 12 gauge frame...


Thankfully, this is incorrect. 12s and 20s had their own respective frame sizes. The 16 gauge 870 guns were built on 12 gauge frames. Likely this is where many get confused on the issue.


I'm am pretty sure all Wingmasters 20 gauge and up were on the same frame size (12 gauge) till the late 1970s. I'd be willing to bet a beer on it smile . Not sure what year the 28s and .410s came out on their own smaller frame.

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Looks like I owe you a beer, 300_savage. You are indeed correct.

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If you ever get to Glendive, MT, PM me and we will go have one. We can talk about Wingmasters and other good shotguns smile.

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Originally Posted by woodmaster81
Until 1977 the 20 (and 16) gauge 870 and 1100 gunswere built on the 12 ga frame. One can readily see the step down to the smaller bore when looking where the barrel exits the receiver. My first 870 was such a model in 20 ga which can now be a bear to find barrels for as it is 40 years since they were last made and not many were produced. The larger frame 20s were very popular on the skeet field at one time and still make for a light recoiling un for beginners or high volume shooting.

After 1977 Reminton began using the smaller frame for the 20 ga but there were two primary versions, the LT and the LW, which had different barrel hangers making them not interchangeable. I'm not sure on the order but I think the LT came first with the LW replacing it a few years later. The second version is what is currently available though the letter designation was dropped.

I think the current 870s are still well made though they may not be quite as well fitted as decades back. Then again, little else is as the cost would be prohibitive. For what is available new today I think one will not surpass a new Wingmaster in quality.


True this^^^. I have a 1975 870 WM in 20ga. It is indeed built on the 12 ga frame. I have two barrel's for it, both have that "step down" you refer to. Both barrels are fixed chokes. Mod and I/C. Friggin' great gun.

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As Sherman Potter said in an episode of MASH, old Wingmasters put the "ooooo" in smooth smile

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