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I think the MRC short action is 3", which would give you breathing room. Mexican Mauser would be the classic choice, and a small-ring Husky also a good one, I think.
SA will work. 3" is perfect. My .257 Roberts is on a LA 700, throated accordingly. My loads run 2.9+" or so. 3" would be ideal for that one, too, although the smith that put this one together tweaked it until it's one of the slickest feeding bolt guns I own. And it feeds no matter how the round is positioned in the 3.4" box. DF
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I may have handicapped myself with a 1:8, 22" 1.5 contour Shaw barrel. On a standard length Mauser I get the full 3" and then some to play with. Current load is Sierra 100 gr GK atop 43 gr of IMR 7383 (Surplus powder) for 3000+ fps, for a lope hunt coming up here in a couple weeks, accuracy is right around 3/4" at 100 yds. So for me it was standard length action with a shorter barrel. As far as twist, that all depends on your purpose for the rifle.
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I am so spoiled with a bone stock (except for bedding) 1965ish 700 BDL 6mm. It shoots 80gr TTSX's 1" higher than 95gr NBT's at 100 yards, and both under 1". I can't bring myself to change a thing. I think it's a 9 twist.
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I have an itch to build a 6 MM Remington. My question is, Do I need a standard length action as a donor or will a short action donor action be sufficient. I'll be shooting up to 100 grain game bullets and likely no lighter than 80 grainers.
What do you say? Easy for me to say,if only because I've shot/got 'em all. Left to right: 270,6 Grendel,6BR,6XC,6 Kreedmire,243 SALAMI,243 Aye-Eye,6mm Rem SAL:AMI,6mm Rem Aye-Eye,6-284 and Six Twat-six. The only bigger piece of fhuqking schit than a 6mm Rem,is the 6mm Rem Aye-Eye. Hint. The 6 Kreedmire is the place you wanna be,if only because it's brass is without peer(Alpha),it's a mechanical marvel and it sings rather nicely with boolits that matter...while playing nice in the COAL department. As per always,boolits matter wayyyyyyyyy more than headstamps. I've got 6 Kreedmire's Custom Rifles in both 7" and 8" twist and 7" is how the game is played. throat with a shred of sense and you can do it all,easily. Hint. As an aside,Alpha will be offering 6 Kreedmire brass,before too long,but I always want to control headspace via false shoulder an do. 108 ELD's at 3050fps is a breeze,in a modest length spout(nothing over 22" for me). I'm gunning a 250yd zero on both,which eats only 7 Mils to the 1000yd line and the windshield alone will get it to the 1200yd line in Today's atmosphere. It's supersonic to 1400yds+ and 5 Mils of full value 10mph wind doesn't happen until the 1900yd line. In '17 fueled Alpha's,ES/SD are amazingly trite(single digit ES) and there is no vertical. It also just happens to CRUSH everything thus far cited,simply fhuqking silly. Hint. If it were a High Volume Utility Rifle,I'd go 6BR and never look back...though in fairness,none of mine are faster than 8"(nor slower). A 20" spout will more than do it all. If forced to burn a L/A Donor in 6mm,it'd Six Twat-six for certain,as there's no bullshit there,but less is soooooooooo much more. Montucky Six Twat-six with 8" Brux,in a contour dupe wearing less shank. 105's at 3400fps don't suck.(grin) You've been led to water. Hint................... (Addendum: for 1000 words video) 1000 Words On 6mm RINKRe-hint......................(grin)
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If it were a High Volume Utility Rifle,I'd go 6BR and never look back... Why?
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Just sayin, I screwed a Pac Nor pre fit on a Savage short action center feed and am able to seat to 3". Nice set up. 9" twist handled all 100 grain bullets and I feel that is all that is needed. Is it better than the std 243 Remingtion? Hard to tell difference but it has the cool factor for an old rifle looney. 100 grain Sierra Game Kings kill like lighting, blood trail on mulies is about 3/4"
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I am so spoiled with a bone stock (except for bedding) 1965ish 700 BDL 6mm. It shoots 80gr TTSX's 1" higher than 95gr NBT's at 100 yards, and both under 1". I can't bring myself to change a thing. I think it's a 9 twist. There's a lot to like with that set up.
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Sugar tits.
Five words. You are a fat [bleep]!!!!!! LOL
Even your hands a fat. π Five more.
Your keepers won't let the beating you deserve take place on the araig. They protect you like a parent with a retarded kid.
Poor Larry and his hurt feelers report. You lucky lyingcuntyou.
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Just sayin, I screwed a Pac Nor pre fit on a Savage short action center feed and am able to seat to 3". Nice set up. 9" twist handled all 100 grain bullets and I feel that is all that is needed. Is it better than the std 243 Remingtion? Hard to tell difference but it has the cool factor for an old rifle looney. 100 grain Sierra Game Kings kill like lighting, blood trail on mulies is about 3/4" 800 yard 22lr and 400 yard bbguns are old sugartits go to so when he starts talking stop listening. Sugar tits aka Larrythe fat fΓ»ck. At #whinningfatfuck.com. let's talk brass if nothing more than to get the sand out of your lyingcunt. Ps pussy grows on trees everywhere but your house. Lol.
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There are 2 rules to success:
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If I wanted 6mm performance and it to fit mag length a 243AI with an 8 twist would be the one.
I'm getting 105hpbt and RL 26 at 49grains at 3170 fps. In a 22" barrel.
50 or 51 is max just not what my gun likes. One could get 3200. A 85grain TSX at 3400+ would not suck.
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I love my 6 ai....
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ainβt easy havin pals.
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Whether or not you're enamored of Stick, he has pointed out a better way to go.
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Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ainβt easy havin pals.
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Availability of quality brass for a start.
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Oh never had a problem, if that is a "problem "....
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ainβt easy havin pals.
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Availability of good brass is not an issue with me.
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I love my 6 ai.... That looks really good, Judman. How much velocity did you pick up with the AI conversion?
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Dunno always shot 100 gr hornadys in my 77 6mm. I'm shooting 80 gr bts out that 22" hart snout at 3650, 52.5 grains of superformance, with no problema.... sumbitch spanks stuff pretty good...
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ainβt easy havin pals.
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