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Will do. My Knight is next up for the range, but that should hopefully be a sighting check.
There's some info on the NAML site run by Toby Bridges. He's a believer, and while he has sponsors, I doubt the Magspark guy is priming his pump to push this. I spoke with the owner at Warren at some length on the phone and it seems like a small, family business. Nice folks, with some interesting products.
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I have a 54 cal Knight I have been using for years. I used to shoot 105gr of BH209 over a 400 gr cast 50 cal boolit with a sabot. Loading was a complete pain in the @$$. I would not reload the rifle in a climbing stand. To much shaking and wiggling for my taste and I don’t care much for heights so I may have been over cautious.
My new load is 80gr of BH209 over a 348gr Powerbelt. Easy to load, much easier on the receiving end too. Shoots great at short barreled 54 cal ranges too.
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The load for my Ultralight has been 80gr with a 300gr .452XTP. Plenty of power. Last year I used the same load with a 290gr Barnes. Going to try 100gr this year, mainly for the flatter trajectory as the longest shot offered from my stand is almost 160 yards. From past range experience I know it's gonna thump me a bit, but if the accuracy is there, I'll take it. Again, based on range shooting, I can drop back to 80gr with no major POI change at normal woods ranges. The next trip to the range will tell the tale.
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In my encore I shoot 100 grains under a 250 grain 45 cal bullet with the black sabot, I have killed 5-6 deer with this load.
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Tried 80gr by weight and a 250gr xtp and was satisfied with the results much easier clean to
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Did an experiment on BH209. If I don't clean the breech plug it will mis-fire at about the 11th to 13th shot. Never before the 10th shot. So, when shooting I clean it every 6th shot. Never had a mis-fire doing that.
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I pulled the plug from my Knight after firing 9 shots Tuesday, just in case. No discernible build-up. This was using standard W209s. If I go back to the range before the season, I'll try it with CCI magnums, which have tended to get a little sticky in the past.
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Federal 209A primers are what I use. The CCIs are too tight in my breechplug.
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Using Blackhorn in my T/C I've shot 25 - 30 times without cleaning breech plug or barrel. Never had an issue. I've used both Winchester and Federal primers.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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I had hangfires with Blackhorn and hot 209 primers in damp weather and went back to using Goex FFF. Real black goes bang for me 100% of the time. Never any hang-fires.
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110gr by volume and barnes 250gn tmz. Hard to load but deadly
Deserve's got nuthin to do with it- Willam H Munny
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I had hangfires with Blackhorn and hot 209 primers in damp weather and went back to using Goex FFF. Real black goes bang for me 100% of the time. Never any hang-fires. Only problem is, I'd have better luck find a bag of pixie dust or a Roman coin thah a lb. of real black within 90 miles of here. I even have to have my BH209 ordered! Nobody carries it. Now, 777 is everywhere. I suppose I could order the black, also. But I've got the BH209 running pretty good in my CVA and 777 working well in my Hawken. It's all good in the hood!
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I bought my most recent can of BH209 at my local Wal-Mart. Works great in my CVA optima. I use CCI 209 magnum primers. CVA makes a different breechplug specifically for BH209.
Goex black is a little harder to find, and is the best choice to use in my flintlocks.
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