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#12246383 - 09/02/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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The sambar.
Dodges tigers for a living so a hunter is not much to deal with.

Seconded by a mature Fallow buck as opposed to a 3-5 year old. Probably on par with a seasoned white tail and not to be confused with park deer found out in the open.



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#12246487 - 09/02/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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southwestern coues deer

#12246660 - 09/02/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: jaguartx]  
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They are the stealtiest for sure, the lions I've encountered in the woods weren't too spooked...

#12246661 - 09/02/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: moosemike]  
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Originally Posted by moosemike
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And that's why California isn't even in the equation.... re hint


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#12247011 - 09/02/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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#12247573 - 09/02/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: moosemike]  
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Blacktails can be tough to find, but believe it or not, that is their downfall. By understanding how rigidly they adhere to their patterns of behavior you can predict when and where they'll be. Mostly where, the when is a little more of a challenge. They don't require vast tracts of perfect habitat, they require a few yards of perfect cover, or less. I look for that place that is so stupid no one would hunt it. If there's feed and water nearby, there's probably a deer there, and good chance it is a good buck.

Bears also super predictable. Cougars hard to find, but not particularly spooky. Never hunted wolves, bet that's a tough one. Whitetails are pretty jumpy.

Oregon Roosevelt elk get hunted very hard and are extremely wary, especially in the Cascades where I hunt them. One hunt I did I tracked one to a thicket in an inch of snow. I circled that thicket in a 50 yard circle, cow calling, pulling grass, generally making cow noises, hoping he would reveal himself. As I closed the circle and my scent was about to blow down in the thicket, I assumed he had snuck out in the melting snow and I had missed his tracks leaving. I threw my pack off and was rummaging thru it for tp when he exploded about 15 yards away. I never even saw him. I'd been within a few yards of him for an hour and he held tight, not giving me so much as a chuckle to let me know he was there. Buried in hemlocks in such close proximity you'd think you were crazy to believe he would hold so tight. They are extremely tough to get when they've been hunted like they are here.


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#12249491 - 09/03/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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This topic comes up relatively often and one common theme is that most people's responses echo what they normally hunt in their locality.

I am no exception...as I truly believe mature mule deer are THE spookiest critters out there. Certainly more so than whitetails of any age. Second place is a lead cow elk.

Cats and wolves are sly as hell but I wouldn't call them particularly spooky. I've seen both sit there and stare at me. Not so with non horney mulies and lead cows. My limited experience with blacktails tells me they're a worthy trophy no doubt, but not as spooky as a seasoned mule deer. They're more sly like cats.


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#12249655 - 09/03/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: T_Inman]  
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If you've hunted deer very many times you've probably got one or at least seen one, same with Elk, Bears, Wolves, Sheep, Oryx, etc. Just about anything mentioned. BUT, if we include mountain lions, how many people could get one or even see one in a life time without dogs. I guarantee they have seen YOU! If we rule out the cats, it's got to be big Muleys on public land, look at the record books, lots of white tails in the book taken with a bow, how about Muley bucks taken with a bow. Once the bell rings, they are tough! You can bowhunt white tails in the rut, hard to do that with Muleys.

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#12251345 - 09/04/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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Hard hunted Whitetail in the piney woods.

#12251584 - 09/04/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: Idaho1945]  
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Originally Posted by Idaho1945
BUT, if we include mountain lions, how many people could get one or even see one in a life time without dogs.
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First I agree with you about spooky vs sly. There is a difference.

I am in a group of exceptions, not the only one. Since 1976 I have seen an 'aggregate' of ONE
Mtn Lion. The first occasion I saw ONLY the long swooping drooping tail as it crossed a log road.

Yrs later I saw most of a M L's body from the shoulder back.

Lastly, in 2011 I saw a M L's HEAD stuck out of brush then it disappeared.

Never had a shot at one.

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#12252068 - 09/05/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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I wouldn't call a cougar spooky. Spooky is when the animal will light out for parts a long way off. A cougar will hide and often stay put. He's very wary and that's not the same thing.

I've hunted in cougar country for over 50 years and have yet to see a wild one. They're there and hunters with dogs get them but they stay well hidden.
Our SIL is a pilot for Homeland Security. For a few years he flew helicopters for the Border Patrol along the CA-MX border. He has some photos he took from the chopper of a cougar in front of its cave. It's a scroungy old thing but it's still neat to see.


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#12253036 - 09/05/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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Desert big horn sheep, hands down...

They have an uncanny ability to sense danger, and they can hightail it across the rocks in a flash.


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#12253062 - 09/05/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: tedthorn]  
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Originally Posted by tedthorn
Buck Jackalope

I've spotted countless doe but the bucks stay hidden.



You should try to get a shot at the hybrid pfhackelope. This one is the only specimen in existence as far as I know.

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#12253813 - 09/06/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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Our whitetails act like they are on crack. Practically crawling out of their skin and hyper-aware of everything! Mule Deer seem chill in comparison. The few black bears I've seen freaked out at the sight of humans and hauled out of there.

#12254258 - 09/06/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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As said earlier, a lot depends on how hard the critter is hunted. Our black bears are often pretty casual about having people around. My grandson lip squeaked one to keep it from leaving a few days ago and to give his partner time to get in position for a shot. Then the grandson said “Hey,” to the bear and when it lifted its head at 38 yards, the other hunter shot it.

Incidentally, this thread is like a cordial exchange of real opinions like around a campfire. I'll stick with hard hunted rain country blacktails.

My experience is not as great as some here but I have hunted mulies a lot, in WA, Idaho and British Columbia, whitetails in WA and British Columbia, California blacktails from Los Angeles to the Oregon line, and sauntered around Coues country and eastern hardwoods with binos, plus scouted and went along with hunters in Oregon, Wyoming and Saskatchewan. Have hunted bighorns, Stone, goats, cougar without dogs, lynx, wolves, bow hunted coyotes...

A few observations: We can glass for mule deer and Coues (and sheep) from across a canyon or at distance in most of their ranges. Not so in blacktail country unless you hunt only alpine or recent clearcuts.

True that the big mule deer bucks tend to sneak away rather than bust out, but that is standard for virtually all blacktail.

Another factor is the visibility of the deer's tail. Mule deer cannot hide the white patch on their rump. That has enabled me to spot and tag several bucks in poor light, the most recent of which I spotted in the dark and watched and waited till legal shooting light. Whitetails tend to wave their bright white flag. Blacktails have their white rump patch covered and they don't wave their tail to get your attention. They are HARD to spot.

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#12255863 - 09/07/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: Teeder]  
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Sasquatch. When was the last time you saw one of them?

Go to a prom in Iowa-they're the ones wearing the dresses.

#12267042 - 09/12/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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#12267135 - 09/12/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: gophergunner]  
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Originally Posted by gophergunner
Originally Posted by Teeder
Sasquatch. When was the last time you saw one of them?

Go to a prom in Iowa-they're the ones wearing the dresses.

laugh laugh laugh

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#12268282 - 09/13/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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I'm going to go with the average Berkeley student. They are certainly animals, look quite gamey, the males are generally medium but the females can run very large, and two words make them flip out, run screaming, attack viciously, and set things on fire. "I'm white."


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#12268517 - 09/13/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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Anything on public land..........................................unless you are willing to go to the most extreme, hard to get to parts of public land.

#12268621 - 09/13/17 Re: Which medium big game animal is spookiest. [Re: bangeye]  
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