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#12262102 - 09/10/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: MagMarc]  
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i know a little shop in north west pa that is like a used pump museum. racks loaded with them. i found the holy grail there a few years back. 7600 35 whelen factory carbine. non-cataloged and made for the european market in early 2000's. i think mine is 2003. last time i was there they had a bunch of the grice special maple stocked ones and just about any flavor you wanted in rifles and a few carbines. you have to ask the guy about the carbines. sometimes he has them in the safe.


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#12262265 - 09/10/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: MagMarc]  
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European market for pumps? I'll be darned.

Oh yeah, there have been some European pumps, but I always thought they were ment for US.


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#12262746 - 09/10/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: Dillonbuck]  
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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
European market for pumps? I'll be darned.

Oh yeah, there have been some European pumps, but I always thought they were ment for US.


I've bought a couple of 760s in 30-06 from Simpson, LTD, that they imported from Sweden. One of them has decals on the stock that appear to be tags for moose and black grouse/capercaillie.

#12263056 - 09/10/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: rem141r]  
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Originally Posted by rem141r
i know a little shop in north west pa that is like a used pump museum. racks loaded with them. i found the holy grail there a few years back. 7600 35 whelen factory carbine. non-cataloged and made for the european market in early 2000's. i think mine is 2003. last time i was there they had a bunch of the grice special maple stocked ones and just about any flavor you wanted in rifles and a few carbines. you have to ask the guy about the carbines. sometimes he has them in the safe.



What shop? I'd like to make a visit.

-Jake


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#12264119 - 09/11/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: tomk]  
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Originally Posted by tomk
That 760 carbine would be tempting in a 300 Savage--for me anyway. I imagine that never happened...


I think that the only cartridges that the 760 carbine was cataloged in were 270, 280, 308, and 30-06. They may have been made for other cartridges, but those would have been non-cataloged, limited run size, rifles.

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Interesting 260. Had assumed it was only the 06. The 280 in an 18" barrel was probably the unspoken version of why they loaded it down...)

Shot an 760 30-06 some, and it was too loud for me...then.

#12264435 - 09/11/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: 260Remguy]  
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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by tomk
That 760 carbine would be tempting in a 300 Savage--for me anyway. I imagine that never happened...


I think that the only cartridges that the 760 carbine was cataloged in were 270, 280, 308, and 30-06. They may have been made for other cartridges, but those would have been non-cataloged, limited run size, rifles.


35 too. very few. something like 300 in the early to mid 60's.


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#12265716 - 09/12/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: MagMarc]  
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I made my own carbine out of that really long 24" barrel on a M141 .35 Remington. Being a kind of squirrel like tree climber/hunter in my youth, those long barrels caught on way more branches than the 18-20" versions. I did have one of those 18.5" .308 Remington 742 semi-autos when I thought that I needed to shoot fast and I didn't shoot it often enough to realize that it was overly loud. Just not real well made with stamped parts and a short lifespan because that breech bolt worked those receiver rails like a milling machine.


My other auto is a .45
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The more you shoot an 18" in a high power, the less it bothers you...

I wouldn't mind knocking a couple inches off the Model 14"s barrel, though I realize it may be the worst kind of apostasy--worse even than putting a synthetic stock on a G33. And as I learned on 24hr, the heretic receives a special place in hell for that. But maybe they meant something like a first class seat...

Anyway at 7# even, it is a sweetheart for what I use it for. Practically perfect, just like what's her name.

#12268102 - 09/13/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: Windfall]  
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Originally Posted by Windfall
I made my own carbine out of that really long 24" barrel on a M141 .35 Remington. Being a kind of squirrel like tree climber/hunter in my youth, those long barrels caught on way more branches than the 18-20" versions. I did have one of those 18.5" .308 Remington 742 semi-autos when I thought that I needed to shoot fast and I didn't shoot it often enough to realize that it was overly loud. Just not real well made with stamped parts and a short lifespan because that breech bolt worked those receiver rails like a milling machine.


IIRC, John Wooter's had a Remington 14 or 141 in 35 Remington with the barrel cut back so that the muzzle was just a little longer than the magazine tube. I seem to remember see a picture of it in a magazine article at some point in history.

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#12268859 - 09/13/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: MagMarc]  
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i have a pile of 141 parts that i'm going to make into another carbine one of these days. need to do some acraglass work on the wood and refinish it. then i'll get my gunsmith buddy to cut the barrel down, remount the front site and hot blue it. i think that's going to be my winter project this year.


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#12269230 - 09/13/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: 260Remguy]  
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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by hclark
Since finding that 300 Savage, I got a 30-06 Carbine:
[Linked Image][Linked Image]

But my pride & joy is this 760 in 260 Remington! They only made 250 in 1989. It is NIB, but will blooded this year I HOPE:
[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]


Is your 260 from a Grice special run?


Yes!

#12269232 - 09/13/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: Dillonbuck]  
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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Hclark,
Are you sure thats a 260 you bought in 1989?

Pretty sure, that's what is stamped on the barrel and printed on the label on the box end!

#12269268 - 09/14/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: hclark]  
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I didn't think the 260 was that old. Time flies.


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Dogs and kids, they are worth the cost.
But,
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#12269513 - 09/14/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: rem141r]  
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Man, if I had the parts would be assembling a 141r with 19 3/8" barrel and a straight grip stock...:)

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#12269518 - 09/14/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: MagMarc]  
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whats scope did you use.

#12269585 - 09/14/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: MagMarc]  
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Seriously, a scope on a 14? Anathema!

I'd put the same one on it in...a Leupold 1-4x20 with a HD reticle. I like irons, but lately the problem with tracking has been this: by the time both eyes get around to focusing on both sights, the buck has had a coffee and departed.

Somehow, the Swafas just don't look right.

#12269825 - 09/14/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: Bocajnala]  
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Originally Posted by Bocajnala
Originally Posted by rem141r
i know a little shop in north west pa that is like a used pump museum. racks loaded with them. i found the holy grail there a few years back. 7600 35 whelen factory carbine. non-cataloged and made for the european market in early 2000's. i think mine is 2003. last time i was there they had a bunch of the grice special maple stocked ones and just about any flavor you wanted in rifles and a few carbines. you have to ask the guy about the carbines. sometimes he has them in the safe.



What shop? I'd like to make a visit.

-Jake


Me Too!!

#12270288 - 09/14/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: hclark]  
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Originally Posted by hclark
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Hclark,
Are you sure thats a 260 you bought in 1989?


Pretty sure, that's what is stamped on the barrel and printed on the label on the box end!


I've been waiting on someone else to ask....

How can it be 1989 when the 260 was introduced @ 1997 ?

Serious ?


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#12270292 - 09/14/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: Dillonbuck]  
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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
I didn't think the 260 was that old. Time flies.


Remington introduced the 260 in 1997.

What is the 2-digit assembly date code on the left side of the barrel, just forward of the receiver?

#12270588 - 09/14/17 Re: Pump Rifles and deer [Re: MagMarc]  
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on of my 14R's has a Leupold 2-7x28 compact on it. it was already d&t'd when i bought it in real rough shape so i fixed and refinished the stock and had my buddy hot blue it. looks like a new gun. it obviously looks better without the scope but that little scope makes all the difference when hunting. the only other 14/141 i have with a scope is my dads 141 35. its had a mid 60's tasco 4x on see-thrus on it as long as i remember and still shoots like a laser. just don't want to take that scope out in the damp or you'll be needing those see-thrus.


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