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Originally Posted by ingwe
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... I'm not sure why so many like Nosler BT, all you get with those is bloodshot meat. ...


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Originally Posted by mathman
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... I'm not sure why so many like Nosler BT, all you get with those is bloodshot meat. ...


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I love it when new members show up and they are already experts! laugh


Reasonable people with differing opinions, no problem. It's the ones who blow in brash and bold that get me going.



Reasonable people? You mean like those who put ice in whiskey?
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No need to debase the conversation.

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Originally Posted by boliep


Is the Barnes TTSX that good?

No

why say so ? they are a fairly efficient.

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I've used various Barnes bullets almost exclusively for the past 30 years or so in calibers from 223 to 375. The current Barnes bullets are very accurate but they are not magic. If you want DRT you need to hit the CNS. That dictates high shoulder or neck shots. If you want big holes and exit wounds and Stevie Wonder blood trails Barnes should not be your first choice.

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Well said, I don't need "Stevie Wonder" smile blood trails, but what with global warming it is getting to be a rare deer season where we have any snow at all and that blood trail is all that I have to find them by. Last light to find them before the predators two or four legged get them means that I'm not in the mood for hide and seek for very long, so I want a leaky exit wound because two holes bleed better than one. Lots of you guys shoot way farther than I do, so accuracy is secondary to terminal performance in my woods.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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... I'm not sure why so many like Nosler BT, all you get with those is bloodshot meat. ...


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I love it when new members show up and they are already experts! laugh


That's whey they're here. So we can "know" as much as they do when they're done telling us!


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Originally Posted by Windfall
Well said, I don't need "Stevie Wonder" smile blood trails, but what with global warming it is getting to be a rare deer season where we have any snow at all and that blood trail is all that I have to find them by. Last light to find them before the predators two or four legged get them means that I'm not in the mood for hide and seek for very long, so I want a leaky exit wound because two holes bleed better than one. Lots of you guys shoot way farther than I do, so accuracy is secondary to terminal performance in my woods.


Let's not forget to mention "old eyes" either. good grief! My kid shot his first deer last fall in WI. Nice tracking snow on the ground, I found hair but not blood. I wave him over. Kid walks right up, and says "is this blood dad?" It's the teeny tiniest speck of blood you'll never see. "Yessir, that's blood." then, "oh theres another one." crazy even in the snow, I'd never have seen it if he didn't point it out.


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Originally Posted by Windfall
Well said, I don't need "Stevie Wonder" smile blood trails, but what with global warming it is getting to be a rare deer season where we have any snow at all and that blood trail is all that I have to find them by. Last light to find them before the predators two or four legged get them means that I'm not in the mood for hide and seek for very long, so I want a leaky exit wound because two holes bleed better than one. Lots of you guys shoot way farther than I do, so accuracy is secondary to terminal performance in my woods.

Global warming? Now the inability to find shot animals is also blamed on global warming? Give me an f'n break.


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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
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Well said, I don't need "Stevie Wonder" smile blood trails, but what with global warming it is getting to be a rare deer season where we have any snow at all and that blood trail is all that I have to find them by. Last light to find them before the predators two or four legged get them means that I'm not in the mood for hide and seek for very long, so I want a leaky exit wound because two holes bleed better than one. Lots of you guys shoot way farther than I do, so accuracy is secondary to terminal performance in my woods.

Global warming? Now the inability to find shot animals is also blamed on global warming? Give me an f'n break.


Maybe I should put him on "ignore". I may need counseling after reading his post. crazy


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Lots of things get better with age, but eyes ain't one of them.


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Originally Posted by Windfall
Lots of things get better with age, but eyes ain't one of them.


Hopefully your posts will follow suit. It only took you 47 posts to make a fool out of yourself.


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A .338 160 TTSX messes up just as much meat as a .338 180 BT in my limited experience. Both will mess up an elk shoulder on close shots. I'd choose the TTSX every day. At least it penetrates better.

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Originally Posted by Windfall
The Interlocks or Core-Lokts batter in the magazine.


You may want to try Sierra hollow point game kings, Nosler BT or Hornady Interbonds. I am also curious about the TTSX on deer, and may try them this season.

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I have decided I only need ttsx bullets in my 22 caliber deer rifles.
the old cup and core bullets seem to be plenty adequate when driven at 2700 to 2900 at the short range hunting available here, when used in larger calibers

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Originally Posted by battue
Frank Glaser said the .220Swift killed faster than any other cartridge he every used and he killed thousands.

Not sure he referred to thousands, but certainly enough to form an valuable opinion. He did say they were not big enough for brown bears.

But the critical point about his thoughts is they were formed prior to 1954. The bullets of today run circles around the old cup and core bullets Frank used.


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Originally Posted by ingwe

Reasonable people? You mean like those who put ice in whiskey?
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That says a lot, it's a keeper.

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I've yet to lose an animal using TSX's or TTSX's. I've also had very good results with the 162gn A-Max in my 7-08AI. The only bullets I've used that I was less than happy with were Hornady SST's and the early Ballistic Tips, both in 277 caliber. I believe the first generation BT's were somewhat more fragile than the ones that followed, and I must have had a batch of the former. Both them and the SST's tended to come apart at close range.


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