Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles John B. Snow says that the 6.5 Creedmoor is the ultimate rifle round

No we don't.

I disagree.

WhoTF is John B. Snow?

I gotta admit... I'm the latest Creed sucker.. it's easy to spot those who have tried it and those who haven't.

I too spent the last decade talking trash about it... Crow has never tasted so good. It's an awesome little round but so are plenty others.

Todd

I'd be more excited if it pushed 140's to 3k. As it is, it's so vanilla that it has no flavor, just frozen cream.

According to page 10 of the June/July issue of Outdoor Life magazine, John B. Snow is a Senior Deputy Editor.

I'm no expert on the CM cartridges yet, but I've been on an efficiency and purpose kick when it comes to rifle cartridges for a bit. All the other cartridge arguments aside, the CM does more, with less recoil and blast than the 708 or 308, and more energy/bullet than the (non-CM) 6s or 25s. It has more factory loads already than the 260 ever did. All of those little things together mean young, small, and (important) new shooters will spend way more favorable time with it and more will hunt with it. I see it as the new beginner centerfire, even though it's just as easily a super versatile rifleman's cartridge like most of the others mentioned. JMO

For 99.95% of the shooters out there, the Creedmoor offers nothing over their 257 Roberts, 25-06, 260 Remington, 6.5x55 or 7mm-08. Unless you are going to get into extreme long range shooting, its benefits will never be realized. With that said, if you aren't represented in that cartridge class, it'd be a dandy place to start.

I'm loading for deer season now. 54gr of imr4350 under 165 SGK's. The deer are lucky since that combination won't kill them.
Probably won't be able to hit one anyway since my little CLR is wearing a Leupold 3-9 with friction adjustments.
Like 16 said, 99 problems..... but venison in the freezer aint gonna be one of them. I have zero use for a creedmor. Obviously YMMV depending on your AO.

I'll agree the 6.5 CM is a great beginner centerfire. It's got plenty of oomph from the muzzle for any size game that a younger or less experienced hunter would be going for. However, as the game increases in size and since most hunting distances are 200 yards or less, that 308 is a certain step above. If elk, black bear, or moose is in the reticle, it's real hard to not prefer a much heavier bullet. The fact remains, at normal hunting distances, the 308 can do everything that the 6.5 CM can do with just as light bullets like the 110 or 130 TTSX and do things on the heavier end of the spectrum that the 6.5 CM can not. The 6.5 CM's only superior place is on the shooting range punching paper. Hey if I did lots of range work and just did some deer hunting every fall I'd be all about it and sing its praises but to call it the 'ultimate rifle round', well just says that range work and deer hunting is all that matters.

Tom,

John Snow has been the shooting columnist for OL since Jim Carmichel retired in 2008. He was a pretty experienced shooter and hunter before then, but because of his job has gained a lot more since then.

I was wondering the same thing.

Thanks JB..I don't get Outdoor Life....or any of the others anymore....I just look here for your writing. Nothing else matters!


(Don't tell Eileen that...)

Haha so true. Make me wonder how I get by year after year!!

I think the 7x57 is the ultimate rifle round and has been for over 120 years. GD

I bought a whole box of Federal 100's for a RAR 243 I've got $150 in. Hope to zero it before deer season and shoot some groceries. I don't think I've fired a rifle during 2017. Probably out of practice. Damn the luck.

Well I'm all phuqued up then. I'm gonna haul the old lady's gpa's 88 3 not so great to Idaho to kill a couple whitetail bucks around thanksgiving. Dunno what the ammo is but it came with the rifle, ammo looks old.... grin

I put the horsehair sling, talley LW's and bought the 3-9 Luepy for $100...

Old guns and old ammo won't kill new deer.

It's sad that this has to be said over and over... why doesn't everyone get it by now?

John Snow is doing his job with articles like this. A gunwriter has to be somewhat provocative. Especially with his title. If he would have titled it "The 6.5 Creedmoor, another cartridge that's as good as a whole litany of other cartridges", we wouldn't be talking about it right now. I recently saw something from Terry Weiland about the .30-06's day having come and gone and about there being much better options and I just felt he was doing what gunwriters do to get your attention. I'd do it too if I was one.