Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles John B. Snow says that the 6.5 Creedmoor is the ultimate rifle round

Then your son did the right thing, I'd always trade a $500 rifle for a $2,000 rifle unless the $500 rifle has some sort of added value, sentimental or otherwise.

If your son needs a replacement, Johnnymac has a 6.5 Creedmoor V2 for sale in the classified ads forum for $450.

OK. Thanks!

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....and condensations.

In PA too!

Just trying to help a fella out!

I burned the barrel on a old Remington 6 mm. For the re-barrel, I decided to go with a .260, due to the fact that I have virtually unlimited access to Hornady Match .308 brass. For my use (hunting to 500 or so) there is not a dime's worth of difference with the Creed. I just could not see the advantage of going with different brass. I load 147-grain ELD-M and 129 Interlocks in my .260 with no problem and it shoots them into 1/2 moa. I can see no advantage at all in the Creed. If I did not have the great brass access, I probably would have considered it, though.

And yes, I also have two 7 mags that have put a lot of meat in the freezer over the years. They are great rifles, but the older that I get, the more I like the small recoil on the .260. It has become my go-to rifle for what I hunt. I am currently trying to add a Nebraska cow elk to its list of freezer meat!

I can see the position. Just don't see much a 6.5 wouldn't do, that my 308s would get used for. When I get to that point, I have 358s and 30-06s, and any 308 is just a tweener, too. Saying the CM is good doesn't mean others are bad. Pointing out it's better efficiency and potential is just a factor of us learning better where the sweet spot is for bore, case, bullets, and powders. Doesn't make stuff more dead, just streamlines the tools some.

Some people encounter COAL issues with bullets longer/heavier than the 130 grain AB, like the 147 grain ELD-M, when they load the 260 for use through short action Remington 2.8" magazines.

The shorter 6.5 Creedmoor case eliminates any chance of COAL being a problem with bullets that are currently available.

I agree. It's somebody's ultimate round, except mine and thousands of other shooters. But it's still the ultimate until the next ultimate round comes along.

WSSMs, WSMs, CMs, RUMs, Lazzaronis. I've read similar written about them when they arrived on the scene as well. You decide what your ultimate is. It's a story title designed to generate sales.

Agree with it or not, people buy magazines based on nifty titles and coolish pictures. Some people follow certain writers. It's the magazine business. It's all about sales. The ones who disagree will buy it so they can pick the article apart. The ones who agree just like reading something about which they like. The fence sitters will be no better off after reading it.

...........................Yeah! A bit of a stretch too imo. However, I suppose if one prefers a flat shooting lower recoiling cartridge with very good downrange ballistics who will hunt game no larger than elk, then the 6.5 CM is a good choice for that individual. Ultimate rifle round though?

Assuming that Mr. Snow is a 6.5 CM owner, I'll bet that Mr. Snow has more than just a 6.5 CM sitting in his gun safe and that his other rifles are not safe queens and/or dust collectors.

No such thing as "the ONE ultimate hunting round."

For all us non 6.5 CM owners, let's all sell the rifles we now have and just own one rifle and one cartridge only,,,,,,namely the 6.5 CM.......

This type of article is always going to be focused on the right now. Is it going to make you sell your prized 30-06 or .270 for pennies on the dollar? I should hope not, but if you get that desire shoot me a PM before posting in the classifieds. Of everything you listed from the WSSM's to the Lazzaronis this is the only new cartridge that I recall gaining this much traction in my lifetime. I think what impresses me most is the availability of quality ammunition at a reasonable price point. Ballistic twin of the 6.5x55 and the .260? Absolutely. The only difference is today I can buy hunting ammo for less than $1 per round for the 6.5 Creedmoor whereas the other two I cannot.

I distinctly remember reading a similar Outdoor Life article in the waiting room of my dentist's office 15-20 years ago. Mr. Carmichael was discussing the magnificence of the then new .260 Rem. I wanted one in the worst way but didn't have the cash for another rifle. I chose to buy college textbooks instead. When I got to the point that I could buy a 260 I chose to purchase the 6.5 CM instead because I preferred the rifle it was chambered in. The point of any of these articles isn't to make you get rid of all of your other rifles because they're obsolete. Its not like every new rifle that is reviewed is in some exotic caliber. Do you think Ruger cares if your 7th RAR rifle you are adding to your collection is in .308 or 6.5 CM? If you need/want/obsess over another rifle articles such as these give you a reason to purchase one. If you're new to rifle ownership they give you an idea of what people are shooting in the current market.

My question is: "What's next?" Just when you think there's enough chamberings to choke a horse, there's another mousetrap in the works. 6 creed, 7 Creed, 223 Creed, 9.3xCreed...


Good grief.

"You know nothing, John Snow"

I recently bought a 6.5 Creedmoor, mainly because I got a very good deal on the rifle, not especially because I was excited over the chambering. I've been pleasantly surprised by how accurate it is, and love shooting it. So far, all I've "killed" with it has been paper and steel, but I will deer hunt with it this fall. Now, having said that, I don't get a tingle down my leg every time I read or hear something about the 6.5 CM. As good a cartridge as it may be, for what I do, there are others just as good, and some even better. I don't compete in long range shooting matches, I'm just a hunter, and the biggest game I hunt is whitetail deer. My rifles in 243 will take care of my deer hunting needs just as good as the Creedmoor could. My 270 will do the job even better. My heavy barrel 308 shoots as good at long range as the Creedmoor does. Still, I believe it's a good round, and one that I'll play around with until something better comes along.......as it surely will.

well ,no that's the point, it doesn't. supposed to shoot flatter and retain more energy than the 308 at long range.

a lot of it is the bullets.that 6.5mm 143 gr BC is .625, the same make and model 30 cal 168gr is .523.

You left out a big one for long distance work.

I will agree that amongst offerings of "Every Man, Middle of the Road" do-all cartridges, that the 6.5 CM has a little more going for it than about any other standard factory set-up.

I chose the .260 because I got a chance at a really cool rifle that just happened to come from the factory (special run) with the advantages of the Creedmoor. And the CM wasn't offered in that rifle at the time. I remember thinking that the special run would have been unnecessary if the maker had simply bought a 6.5 CM reamer.

If a guy wants a very capable rifle for hunting that he can play around shooting long range with, and do well, then the creedmore is an obvious choice.
There are other choices, but the CM has more going for it in terms of OAL/chamber/mag length, Component availability, and even factory cartridge availability.

And I'm familiar with the name "John B. Snow". But I stopped reading the rags years ago, and I couldn't tell you much about the guy. I do think that in the large sense, he's right about the Creedmoor