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If velocity was not important to you, you would have no objections to shooting bullets at 100fps. Sorry, I should've known to qualify what I said about velocity by adding "within the realm of common sense." Since you normally operate "outside the realm" as it were. But please, post up some photos of groups you've shot at 100 fps muzzle velocity. I'm fascinated by the possibilities.
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If velocity was not important to you, you would have no objections to shooting bullets at 100fps. Sorry, I should've known to qualify what I said about velocity by adding "within the realm of common sense." Since you normally operate "outside the realm" as it were. But please, post up some photos of groups you've shot at 100 fps muzzle velocity. I'm fascinated by the possibilities. smokepole, Please, let this guy have the last word so this thread can die.
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If velocity was not important to you, you would have no objections to shooting bullets at 100fps. Sorry, I should've known to qualify what I said about velocity by adding "within the realm of common sense." Since you normally operate "outside the realm" as it were. But please, post up some photos of groups you've shot at 100 fps muzzle velocity. I'm fascinated by the possibilities. smokepole, Please, let this guy have the last word so this thread can die. Smoke, when Ringman is the voice of reason on a thread...... The end is near!!!
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The end was actually about 24 pages ago.........
Did you know that the .30-06 is obsolete?
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The end was actually about 24 pages ago.........
Did you know that the .30-06 is obsolete? Damn, and my Dad is bringing one up for his hunt... Can I kill anything with the 7x57 I'm gonna use, or is it just way too obsolete?
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If velocity was not important to you, you would have no objections to shooting bullets at 100fps. Sorry, I should've known to qualify what I said about velocity by adding "within the realm of common sense." Since you normally operate "outside the realm" as it were. But please, post up some photos of groups you've shot at 100 fps muzzle velocity. I'm fascinated by the possibilities. smokepole, Please, let this guy have the last word so this thread can die. Smoke, when Ringman is the voice of reason on a thread...... The end is near!!! Ain't that the truth.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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If velocity was not important to you, you would have no objections to shooting bullets at 100fps. Sorry, I should've known to qualify what I said about velocity by adding "within the realm of common sense." Since you normally operate "outside the realm" as it were. But please, post up some photos of groups you've shot at 100 fps muzzle velocity. I'm fascinated by the possibilities. smokepole, Please, let this guy have the last word so this thread can die. Smoke, when Ringman is the voice of reason on a thread...... The end is near!!! Ain't that the truth. What?? Ringman is always the voice of reason. You guys just aren't paying attention.
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Smokepole,
I've gone round and round with Coyote Hunter.
There's no getting through.
I prefer to save bandwidth and just snipe at him on a thread every now and then. Much more satisfying.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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If velocity was not important to you, you would have no objections to shooting bullets at 100fps. Sorry, I should've known to qualify what I said about velocity by adding "within the realm of common sense." Since you normally operate "outside the realm" as it were. But please, post up some photos of groups you've shot at 100 fps muzzle velocity. I'm fascinated by the possibilities. What is the "realm of common sense" velocities for a .264" 123g Scenar?
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All the energy in the world won't stop Coyote Hunter from gut shooting and not recovering elk.
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Argumentum ad absurdum just met his match...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Argumentum ad absurdum just met his match... Maybe so. Some people cannot understand the truths that such a method reveals, others, apparently, simply and willfully refuse to do so. In any case, reduction to the absurd is a perfectly valid way of discovering and demonstrating limits. Not only is it a valid method, it is indispensable for both logical and mathematical purposes. Entire fields of math would be impossible with out it. Whether someone lacks the metal capacity to understand or willfully refuses, the truths revealed are still truths. Gone fishing, where I'll be trying for the weed line.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
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A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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Smokepole,
I've gone round and round with Coyote Hunter.
There's no getting through. I'm trying desperately to get through to him. A mind is such a terrible thing to waste.
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Gotta hand it to 'em
Those two are persistent!
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Those two are persistent! True, but each in our own way. I'm as persistent as a gentle spring rain, and Coyote Hunter is as persistent as hemorrhoids.
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Argumentum ad absurdum just met his match... Maybe so. Some people cannot understand the truths that such a method reveals, others, apparently, simply and willfully refuse to do so. In any case, reduction to the absurd is a perfectly valid way of discovering and demonstrating limits. Not only is it a valid method, it is indispensable for both logical and mathematical purposes. Entire fields of math would be impossible with out it. Whether someone lacks the metal capacity to understand or willfully refuses, the truths revealed are still truths. Gone fishing, where I'll be trying for the weed line. You are the one failing to understand... just saying... You can lead a fool to water, but you can't make him think...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Argumentum ad absurdum just met his match... Maybe so. Some people cannot understand the truths that such a method reveals, others, apparently, simply and willfully refuse to do so. In any case, reduction to the absurd is a perfectly valid way of discovering and demonstrating limits. Not only is it a valid method, it is indispensable for both logical and mathematical purposes. Entire fields of math would be impossible with out it. Whether someone lacks the metal capacity to understand or willfully refuses, the truths revealed are still truths. Gone fishing, where I'll be trying for the weed line. You are the one failing to understand... just saying... You can lead a fool to water, but you can't make him think... Show me where I'm wrong. I doubt smokinrope will provide a "realm of common sense" velocities for a .264" 123g Scenar - or any other particular bullet - because the moment he does he has defines the "realm of common sense" energies.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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I doubt smokinrope will provide a "realm of common sense" velocities for a .264" 123g Scenar - or any other particular bullet - because the moment he does he has defines the "realm of common sense" energies.
Here's my answer, I think you'll like it. The fact that you have to ask the question "what are common-sense velocities" is telling. Because asking that question is the same as asking about the menu prices in a fine French restaurant. If you have to ask the question, you have no business going there. Now let me ask you a couple of questions. Have you ever shot a bullet at 100 fps, or heard of anyone else who has? Does shooting a bullet at 100 fps make sense to you? Do you know of any bullet manufacturers that design centerfire bullets to perform properly at 100 fps and below? Thanks!!
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duck and dodge. you didn't answer the question.
I want to know what you think not what I think.
from my cell phone.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
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Duck and dodge indeed. Why don't you answer my questions for a change. Then I'll answer yours.
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