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Took both with my Traditions St.Louis Hawken .50cal with 70gr 3fg Goex, .020" patch and home cast .490" round ball. Both are one shot kills. The doe dropped on the spot, the bull went MAYBE 30 yards after a double lung hit.

Kinda makes you feel foolish for paying up the ass for "premium" bullets.
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What's the barrel length on your carbine there?

What range did you take them at?

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Where is a spike bull legal during muzzleloader season?

And I shoot an average of 10-20 ML bullets a year so I'm probably spending less than you did for your gear to make your own.



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Look in the booklet on page 32.

Lots of units where there are no point restrictions. In my case, unit 84.

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Well done big block!


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Nice hat, too!


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Good shooting!

I've always wanted to kill an Elk with my .54 cal TC Hawken! It works well at the Ranch on feral hogs with round balls & 100 grains of Goex.


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Good shooting!

I've always wanted to kill an Elk with my .54 cal TC Hawken! It works well at the Ranch on feral hogs with round balls & 100 grains of Goex.


Then do it!!!!


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Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Congrats on the double!
....but I don't feel the least bit foolish about what I spend on muzzleloader bullets. I spend more on convenience store coffee every year.


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Originally Posted by RememberBaker

....but I don't feel the least bit foolish about what I spend on muzzleloader bullets.


I don't either. Especially when the guy spouting off is the biggest promoter of premium muzzleloader bullets on this site.



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IT HURT THEY SAY WHEN A GUY LIKE U SHOOT A ANIMAL OR ANIMALS LIKE YOURS LESS THEN 150 YARDS OR SO GREAT JOB

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Originally Posted by RWE
What's the barrel length on your carbine there?

What range did you take them at?

The deer was maybe 40 yards, the bull was 25-30 yards.

Not a carbine, its a 28" barrel. 50cal - 1:48 twist.

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More pics of the bull.
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Way to go big block.

Nice pics too.

Congrats!


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That is so Awesome!! Congratulations to some fine hunting!


My old .54 cva is a whitetailed killin' mosheen with round balls, but I always wanted to shoot an elk with it. Great to see the results on your elk.

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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Nice hat, too!



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Where'd you them?



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I'm always a bit shocked to find this is news to anybody. Been shooting prb for over 40 years and always had excellent results

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Great job BB! I'm hoping to replicate your results this fall here in WA.

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Hell of a deal BB, looks like you have the winters meat supply covered, and then some. cool


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Originally Posted by bangeye
I'm always a bit shocked to find this is news to anybody. Been shooting prb for over 40 years and always had excellent results


I do know 58 cal and 8 bore round balls kill hard and fast, mine are probably cast in the neighborhood of around 15 on the BHS, they penetrate.


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Heck, it's even possible to kill critters with an unpatched round ball too!


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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
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Have their round haunches gored."

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................................................if you're a certified heavily licensed smoothbore stunt shooter. shocked ;]


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Mebbe???? whistle


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And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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NIce shooting Bigblock. I'll happily use patched round balls on my next muzzleloader hunt. Worked fine on a good mule deer last year and might have to try for a repeat next year.

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Just wonderful. Congrats on makin' meat the old fashioned way.

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Mebbe???? whistle


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heading out later today with a friend and my brother in law. Both have buck tags for new mexico. My friend is a first time hunter and using a 54cal great plains rifle. Should be fun!

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Good Luck! smile


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Congratulations on both your ML round ball kills......

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Well sheite...........might have to dust off the Hawken Silver Elite.

Congrats on a cool double smile

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Guessin' that rumors of D. Crockett being a vegan are not true.


I am..........disturbed.

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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Guessin' that rumors of D. Crockett being a vegan are not true.


LOL, I had to explain to a bermuda grass eater that because he [we] had forward facing eyes and canine teeth he was a meat eater, "dinner" has eyes on the sides of their heads.

Whaaaatt?? was all I got. crazy


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LMAO, now that is funny!

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Nice shooting with that sidelock.

Did you have any doubts about the PRB?


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Nice and congrats! I've been shooting a 54 cal patched round ball for years with same, excellent, results. I don't cast anything anymore but have an ample supply left. I use a .530" round ball with a .015" patch, T/C Wonder wad and 100 grains of Goex 2F in an old CVA Hawken kit gun made back in the late 70's. Shot patches are perfect, just rifling marks, no tears or rips. Thing looks like an old canoe paddle, but does it shoot! Best to all in the ongoing and upcoming seasons, Dean.


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Well, next year or whenever I draw another tag. They won't know what hit'em! Finally got some buckskin pants and shirt. To damn hot to show the shirt, hopefully this evening maybe.

I think thinking about smoking them to a darker color. They are not as bright looking in person. Just extra shine from the sand I was standing near.
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Hey Bigblock!

This is Fall 1978. Back when we all thought we was Mountain men! LOL

Wish I still had that Hawken. .54 cal GRRW bbl. Gun built by Dutch Schlinger (sic). It was a shooter!

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I do not put dead animals on my head anymore! laugh.


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Have their round haunches gored."

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Hey Bigblock!

This is Fall 1978. Back when we all thought we was Mountain men! LOL

Wish I still had that Hawken. .54 cal GRRW bbl. Gun built by Dutch Schlinger (sic). It was a shooter!

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I do not put dead animals on my head anymore! laugh.


Cool photo Bob! Was that back in your movie star days? wink


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No Neal. I was just a young "himbo" then. Chasin' stuff at the dance halls. Buy Hollywood would have loved me too given the op!


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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester

"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
No Neal. I was just a young "himbo" then. Chasin' stuff at the dance halls. Buy Hollywood would have loved me too given the op!


No doubt Buudy!


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Truth be known. That photo was from a newspaper shoot on muzzleloading and rendez-vous schidt. All my buds got a real big laugh on me when the writer said we "attended events called rendezvous and ate period stew!" They all wanted to know how many Kotex's it took to make a proper period stew??? (Sorry Bigblock on The thread hijack!). Please forgive.


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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
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Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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shocked laugh grin


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I been wearin buckskins an killin stuff with patched round balls for years. This moose was taken years ago with a Custom Jager .62 cal flintlock PRB

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This buck with a Custom Kentucky .54 cal flintlock PRB

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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
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Hey Bigblock!

This is Fall 1978. Back when we all thought we was Mountain men! LOL

Wish I still had that Hawken. .54 cal GRRW bbl. Gun built by Dutch Schlinger (sic). It was a shooter!

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I do not put dead animals on my head anymore! laugh.


Cool photo Bob! Was that back in your movie star days? wink


Is that Johnny Football's Great Great Great Grandpa Daniel Poon?














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Sherman! Set the way back machine for 1983! Place, Sawmill canyon; Burro mtns. Of the Gila. NM muzzleloading mule deer season. Some may recognize my hunting pard. The late Moses McTavish of Albuquerque and his wonder Ferret Herman. Thats me with the bullsnake. Preparing for a bout with Herman! Shinin' Times!

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And yes we hunted with round ball. I used my 1/2 stock GRRW perc. Leman. Moses had his .54 GRRW full stock flint Leman!

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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Originally Posted by gunner500
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Hey Bigblock!

This is Fall 1978. Back when we all thought we was Mountain men! LOL

Wish I still had that Hawken. .54 cal GRRW bbl. Gun built by Dutch Schlinger (sic). It was a shooter!

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I do not put dead animals on my head anymore! laugh.


Cool photo Bob! Was that back in your movie star days? wink


Is that Johnny Football's Great Great Great Grandpa Daniel Poon?














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It very well could be!!!


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Have their round haunches gored."

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My .54 PRB generally kills what it hits. 230gr of lead is a lot of attitude.

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Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
My .54 PRB generally kills what it hits. 230gr of lead is a lot of attitude.



Just now finishes loading 5, .530 RB's with greased ticking patch in my loading block for the .54 Jäger!

Then into the pouch it went!!!


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Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester

"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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