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Longer than expected delivery on my 250AI from Ryan. But he responded promptly when I emailed and the rifle seems to be done right. I fired it a few times just to test....no groups yet.
Now I'm messing around with Manners on a stock I waited almost 10 months for. Shank inlet too long...dangit. I will send the barreled action and stock back so they can fix it. I'll get it all together eventually.
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Check your cerakote if you had it applied by Ryan. Mine comes right off with laquer thinner. The barrel wasn't bead blasted and the coating wasn't baked on, just air dried.
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Check your cerakote if you had it applied by Ryan. Mine comes right off with laquer thinner. The barrel wasn't bead blasted and the coating wasn't baked on, just air dried. You may as well have rattle canned the job yourself, that's terrible workmanship.
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There are a few gunsmiths that can perform top notch work, in a timely manner, and don't give you the runaround or hide when you call or email. Those are the gunsmiths to use.
Mark Penrod. His word is good as gold . He's the only guy that touches my rifles.
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I think the language and tone of this discussion may be one of the reasons so many reasonable posters have left the fire. Agreed, people should be nicer to scammers.
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I think the language and tone of this discussion may be one of the reasons so many reasonable posters have left the fire. Surely you jest? If not, I feel sorry for you.
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Check your cerakote if you had it applied by Ryan. Mine comes right off with laquer thinner. The barrel wasn't bead blasted and the coating wasn't baked on, just air dried. No cerakote here. Mine is all stainless and I just had him bead blast it.
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There is absolutely no excuse for a small businessman to be a poor businessman, gunmiths don't get dispensation for poor business practices. Every business has challenges and delays in receiving parts and in receiving payment. With email and some basic business software it is extremely easy to keep track of running a business, and communicate with customers in a timely manner. It just requires the discipline to put in a little bit of time each day to put time into overhead work and not get behind.
Where many gunsmiths go awry is when they take in work with a deposit, and use that deposit money to pay themselves before they've ordered the parts and before they've performed the work. Then suddenly they are out of cash, customers are breathing down their neck and they need to wait until a new customer sends in a deposit and then they use that deposit money to buy parts for the guys that have been waiting months and years for work.
There are a few gunsmiths that can perform top notch work, in a timely manner, and don't give you the runaround or hide when you call or email. Those are the gunsmiths to use. And now preorders are being taken for $1200 for a custom action....
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They are very short shot groups. Another eye opener is that Cooper doesn't just shoot three shots and send the group. They shoot
the rifle until they get a very small group and then send that one.
When I bought my first one I called Cooper about barrel break in recommendations. The response was that they have shot the rifle
enough that the barrel is well broken in.
What you are seeing in the box with the Cooper is marketing.
I'm sure you guys know what you're talking about. But even if this was shot at only 50 yards, I'm thinking that this same 3-shot group at 100 yards would be just fine. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/medium/52719.jpg)
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They are very short shot groups. Another eye opener is that Cooper doesn't just shoot three shots and send the group. They shoot
the rifle until they get a very small group and then send that one.
When I bought my first one I called Cooper about barrel break in recommendations. The response was that they have shot the rifle
enough that the barrel is well broken in.
What you are seeing in the box with the Cooper is marketing.
Ok, so wht did you buy more than that first one? Did the Cooper's shoot well or not? I don't own a Cooper, so just wanting to understand all the hub bub.
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Bought two. Sold both.
They shot OK but not enough to justify the extra money.
No hub bub, just my experience.
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Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.
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Has anyone see our boy Ryan Kelsey lately? I'd like to hear back from him.
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