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Oh and you couldn't hit a 4'x8' piece of plywood at the range you run your fat mouth about.
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Side note, I talked to a repπ( my contact) About trying a scope and they sent me a free care package. I would ask them if they know you but no one does or cares to. Here's to you trying and coming up short (and fat).. Pussy don't grow on trees do it.
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I am getting my M700 re-barreled and chambered to 7mm-08 Rem. The gunsmith I use recommends a 1-10 twist for bullets up to 140 gr. and 1-9 twist for bullets 150 gr. or more. (This gun is primarily for hunting deer.) I would like to be able to load this gun mostly for 140 gr. bullets but have the option of a heavier bullet if I ever draw a PA elk tag. (Possibly 150 gr. Partition.) What twist should I select? If I go with 1-9 twist, can I shoot the light bullet weights? I am assuming, if I select the 1-10 twist, I am stuck shooting 140 gr. or less bullet weights. Also, I am not sure about stock choice. Is the McMillan Hunters Edge that much better than the Bell & Carlson Ti. The McMillan Hunters Edge costs twice as much as the Ti if not more. (I am trying to put together a nice carry rifle in the 7.25 lb. range) Any help would be appreciated. However, I have my heart set on the 7mm-08 Rem chambering. Buy a Barrett Fieldcraft in 7-08 and connect all dots and cut to the fhuqking chase. You reap a 8" twist spout that will do it all and throat geometry that jives with it's 3" COAL magbox. Bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps and were it me,I'd be in 162 ELD Mode expressly. I've got 7-08's in 9",9.25",9.5" and 10". My 22" Lilja 10" will stabilize same(162 'Max and ELD M's) at low tide in any/all weathers/seasons here in Kansas,but reserve RPM is your friend,if only because the ONLY way boolits get better,is to get longer. Hint. Lilja 1-10" 22" 7-08 SALAMI and the only thing it launches is 162's. Re-hint. The Fieldcraft wearing a 6X MQ Fixed Fhuqker,will simply do it all and then some. 2700fps is a breeze with the 162 ELD and with a modest 200yd zero,the windshield gets it to the 1100yd line. Factor a 20MOA rail,40 MOA 'Horn's and you are boolitproof and will bring 35 MILS of erector to the table,which is the 2000yd line. It will cost less and be more mechanically sound(COAL/throat/twist). I hold Hart in the highest esteem and have a good herd of them...but the Fieldcraft is simply a VASTLY superior Mouse Trap. Hint. Never been tough to cypher who shoots and who don't,though the 168 SMK muse was fhuqking hilarious! You've been led to water. Thank me later........................ Now them late to the part can say they "know" too. Laughing!
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Whine some [bleep] about mils, MOA and spelling and punctuation sugar tits deflecting the facts are facts. You lie so much you can't keep it straight anymore. A 9 twist obermeyer and a manners eh3 is where it's at. If a guy was really gunning the 2000 mark the 180eld would walk the 162 to sleep but no one cares cuz that [bleep] is stupid.
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Fredrica, can you please be nice!! The bald faced lying lazy bushelor is a hybrid between, marky mark in the shooter, quigley down under, and our very own safariman.......
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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I am getting my M700 re-barreled and chambered to 7mm-08 Rem. The gunsmith I use recommends a 1-10 twist for bullets up to 140 gr. and 1-9 twist for bullets 150 gr. or more. (This gun is primarily for hunting deer.) I would like to be able to load this gun mostly for 140 gr. bullets but have the option of a heavier bullet if I ever draw a PA elk tag. (Possibly 150 gr. Partition.) What twist should I select? If I go with 1-9 twist, can I shoot the light bullet weights? I am assuming, if I select the 1-10 twist, I am stuck shooting 140 gr. or less bullet weights. Also, I am not sure about stock choice. Is the McMillan Hunters Edge that much better than the Bell & Carlson Ti. The McMillan Hunters Edge costs twice as much as the Ti if not more. (I am trying to put together a nice carry rifle in the 7.25 lb. range) Any help would be appreciated. However, I have my heart set on the 7mm-08 Rem chambering. Buy a Barrett Fieldcraft in 7-08 and connect all dots and cut to the fhuqking chase. You reap a 8" twist spout that will do it all and throat geometry that jives with it's 3" COAL magbox. Bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps and were it me,I'd be in 162 ELD Mode expressly. I've got 7-08's in 9",9.25",9.5" and 10". My 22" Lilja 10" will stabilize same(162 'Max and ELD M's) at low tide in any/all weathers/seasons here in Kansas,but reserve RPM is your friend,if only because the ONLY way boolits get better,is to get longer. Hint. Lilja 1-10" 22" 7-08 SALAMI and the only thing it launches is 162's. Re-hint. The Fieldcraft wearing a 6X MQ Fixed Fhuqker,will simply do it all and then some. 2700fps is a breeze with the 162 ELD and with a modest 200yd zero,the windshield gets it to the 1100yd line. Factor a 20MOA rail,40 MOA 'Horn's and you are boolitproof and will bring 35 MILS of erector to the table,which is the 2000yd line. It will cost less and be more mechanically sound(COAL/throat/twist). I hold Hart in the highest esteem and have a good herd of them...but the Fieldcraft is simply a VASTLY superior Mouse Trap. Hint. Never been tough to cypher who shoots and who don't,though the 168 SMK muse was fhuqking hilarious! You've been led to water. Thank me later........................ Now them late to the part can say they "know" too. Laughing! I guess I'm [bleep], your frothing out the mouth like the lying wide spaced eyed drooling dummy you are about fieldcrafted and SS, and you hang a pic of that??? WOW +P...... Addendum, haha, how many fieldcraft rifles you got princess??
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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Fredrica, can you please be nice!! The bald faced lying lazy bushelor is a hybrid between, marky mark in the shooter, quigley down under, and our very own safariman....... Naw, Even safariman was keeping a woman so that is bullshit. Sugar tits is more like your Rosie O'Donnell and barney Fife. LMMFAO
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People talk out of their ass. Hart will build you anything you want. I call BS.
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People talk out of their ass. Hart will build you anything you want. I call BS. So will RBros. Lol.
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Go with a 9 twist and forget it!
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Yes it's really that simple, stock of your choice, 140's and go kill some stuff...
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, Iβd rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ainβt easy havin pals.
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People talk out of their ass. Hart will build you anything you want. I call BS. Hart will build you a Fieldcraft? Doubt it.
How do you know a Trump hater? They'll tell you.
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#2 contour, 1" barrel shank 22-24" in length 9 twist. I don't think Hart will build a barrel under a #3 contour, so you may have to go with a different brand, which isn't a bad thing either. Lots of great barrel builders out there.
I built one on a #1 contour and although it packed well, it was only good for a couple of rounds, then started spraying bullets. I went with a #3 and it was just a bit too heavy. I find a #2 to be about perfect.
Doing a 1:10 twist gains you nothing at all. A 1:9 twist is the way to go. I shoot mostly 120's in my 7mm-08's, which are all 9 twists. I have also shot 162's with no issues at all. I have killed everything from mice to elk with 120 grain bullets. Great round and you will love it. Keep it light and simple. Don't over think it. Flinch Pretty sure sako was responding to this statement about hart not building a barrel under a #3 contour (which of course, they will.) That was posted in 2012, and flinch last posted in 2013. Entertaining thread regardless.
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Speaking of Hart, I traded for this Bobby Hart built M-700. It came with a McM Hunter stock that I sold on the classifieds, bought a Hunters Edge thru Rick here on the Fire. I got the stock unpainted, glassed bedded it, sent it back to McM for paint. The gun came with a Timney 510, the contour is Rem factory at 23". With the 26 oz Edge, it has a slightly forward heft, which I like. Best I can measure, it's a 10 twist. It shoots 140 NBT, 140 VLD and 120 NBT, half inch at a hundred, the 140's with BG at 2,800+, the 120 with Varget at 3,000+fps. 10 twist is OK, as I don't expect to shoot heavier than 140's in this gun. I shot a number of rounds. One swab with Patch Out with enough back and forth to measure twist, followed by a dry patch; the bore is perfect thru the Hawkeye. Of course, I DBC all my barrels, even premium tubes. The 3-9x40 Conquest has been fitted with a turret. I'll eventually get Ballistic Tape for the load I settle on. DF
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If I go with 1-9 twist, can I shoot the light bullet weights? All my 708's are 9 twist. They all shoot 120's, 140' and 160's very well.
I should have just bought a [bleep] T3...
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Just got more info on my Bobby Hart 7-08 from the original owner who had the work done. He sold it to the guy I traded with.
It is a 9 twist. My measuring wasn't very precise. So, that's good to know.
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