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And sad to hear the worst about 2 of my good friends - Greg and Gracie.

Monoxide?


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Should have known something was wrong when Cross didn't answer phone calls or reply to a PM.

Those of us who shared time and efforts with Greg will miss him in very special ways, for he was an uncommon person. I admired his skills and knowledge in some important areas, and his forthrightness. Anything else that came with his exuberance was simply another facet of a very experienced and complex man.

Some of us are hoping - and trying - to see that his passing is observed with proper remembrance.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
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Cross AND Gracie? What the hell happened?


Murder/suicide wouldn't surprise me. The interactions I had with Greg via PM and on the forum were very negative, he was a loudmouthed [bleep] with an anger problem.


A MAN with any brains or nuts, if he had such thoughts, would keep them to himself.


Screw you, Greg was an azzhole. I don't mourn his passing.



I shouldn't, but it's not my nature. It has NOTHING to do with mourning his passing you ignorant SOB. There is NOTHING you can say to get back at a dead man, what you are doing is kicking other people right in the nuts. Silly little bitch




Your nature is correct on that bitch, Steelhead.




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I had the occasion to meet and interact with Greg for the last few years. He built the rifle I gave my father for his 65th birthday. We went as a team to pick it up and Greg drove us to an old Apache campsite and that is where I told my dad that the gun was for him. Greg made that all the more special in that he knew the history of that place and chose just the right spot for that exchange. He was a mans man and as was stated didn't brook fools lightly. He treated my father and I with respect and courtesy and we enjoyed every minute of our visit. I am going to let the comment above pass as it is the internet but I will say if someone disparages that mans memory in my presence they better be prepared for the consequences.

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
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Cross AND Gracie? What the hell happened?


Murder/suicide wouldn't surprise me. The interactions I had with Greg via PM and on the forum were very negative, he was a loudmouthed [bleep] with an anger problem.


A MAN with any brains or nuts, if he had such thoughts, would keep them to himself.


Screw you, Greg was an azzhole. I don't mourn his passing.



I shouldn't, but it's not my nature. It has NOTHING to do with mourning his passing you ignorant SOB. There is NOTHING you can say to get back at a dead man, what you are doing is kicking other people right in the nuts. Silly little bitch




Get a life, you loser. You're on here 24 hours a day. I don't give a schitt what you have to say.

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I'd guess these sad tidings would be reason as any that if you ever did want to meet someone, do something, or whatever, in person to not hesitate. Not saying the next Campfire Gathering will fit my timeline but it sounds like some great bond are formed. I kinda figured some time I would beg some of you old guys to let me sit in on one of your outwest gatherings...and maybe still will. This is a reminder that time doesn't stand still while one waits.

- and Greg, assuming we meet on a mountain top, somewhere, some time, I not only forgive but laugh about the time you told me you would "squash my head like a zit".


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Anybody who can't appreciate Cross lacks the ability to recognize a quality human being.

Cross knew how to live life deliberately.

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He was the first one to welcome me to the fire a couple years back. Always liked reading his his posts. He was always strong in his opinions and usually right.

RIP


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Just came in from the shop and read this, hate to hear it.

It's funny how reading peoples posts on an internet forum makes it seem like you know them even if you've never met them or even PM'd them. I enjoyed reading his posts and seeing the projects he was always working on. I'll miss him.

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Damn. Just, damn.

RIP Greg.

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RIP.

I don't venture out of the VBTE much, but when I do I often saw something from Cross that I agreed with...but a few things I really disagreed with him on.
His attitude for sure wasn't the best and he'd cherry pick my words while arguing...

Still a bum deal...



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They'll need something welded, wherever he is...

Or machined to a fine tolerance!


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Greg slapped me around a couple times, that's the campfire, and I didn't take it personally. But most of the time we saw eye to eye on things. I didn't meet him in person, but I respect he was a guy that spoke his mind and you knew where he stood on issues. For those who kick sand on a man's grave, I say, let this be a lesson for everyone here in the forum. This is a place to share ideas and hopefully learn something in the process. Far too many conversations on the forum remind me of a playground fight between insecure boys. I am not perfect if this regard but I am trying to listen more and react immaturely less. Anyway, RIP, whether you liked the guy's style or opinion or not, I never doubted that he was a true American. And I can respect that at least.

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Originally Posted by mack5511
I had the occasion to meet and interact with Greg for the last few years. He built the rifle I gave my father for his 65th birthday. We went as a team to pick it up and Greg drove us to an old Apache campsite and that is where I told my dad that the gun was for him. Greg made that all the more special in that he knew the history of that place and chose just the right spot for that exchange. He was a mans man and as was stated didn't brook fools lightly. He treated my father and I with respect and courtesy and we enjoyed every minute of our visit. I am going to let the comment above pass as it is the internet but I will say if someone disparages that mans memory in my presence they better be prepared for the consequences.

Jim Jr.


Good man. So's Steelhead. One must respect the rules of the internet. One of the unwritten ones is "Don't take no chit," and Greg certainly embodied that.

I'll pass in this thread Jim, as you have, since Steelhead can't say it better.

I'd been on the receiving end of Greg's barbs many times. I rather enjoyed it, once I'd been here long enough to understand it, which wasn't that long. Didn't know Greg personally, but he was a man with great conviction and no one can argue that.

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RIP


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RIP, pilgrim.


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I think he recently posted that Gracie was 14 years old. Good that they are together.


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Damn, RIP Cross and Gracie

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And I stumbled into the both of you at his last "Sierra Vista Shindig" - as well as edtoomanyletters, CCCC, 45-100, Ken Howell, and I forget how many more (around 30, IIRC! not to mention the infamous "Gracie" smile )
I used to speak with him on the phone, but it has been a while. I'll miss them greatly!


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...terrible.

Pourin some out for Greg tonight.

Wouldve liked to meet him, the Cowboy Ben Kenobi.

Will miss his humor, his fury, and his knowledge on the Fire.

Made me laugh more than a few times.

Rest in Peace, Sir.

Rest in Peace.




Panco Villa crossed the border in the year of ought sixteen
The people of Columbus still hear him riding through their dreams
He killed seventeen civilians you could hear the women scream
Blackjack Pershing on a dancing horse was waiting in the wings

Tonight we ride, tonight we ride
We'll skin ole Pancho Villa, make chaps out of his hide
Shoot his horse, Siete Leguas, and his twenty-seven bride
Tonight we ride, tonight we ride

We rode for three long years till Blackjack Pershing called it quits
When Jackie wasn't lookin' I stole his fine spade bit
It was tied upon his stallion, so I rode away on it
To the wild Chihuahuan desert, so dry you couldn't spit

Tonight we ride, you bastards dare
We'll kill the wild Apache for the bounty on his hair
Then we'll ride into Durango, climb up the whorehouse stairs
Tonight we ride, Tonight we ride

When I'm too damn old to sit a horse, I'll steal the warden's car
Break my ass out of this prison, leave my teeth there in a jar
You don't need no teeth for kissin' gals or smokin' cheap cigars
I'll sleep with one eye open, 'neath God's celestial stars

Tonight we rock, Tonight we roll
We'll rob the Juarez liquor store for the Reposado Gold
And if we drink ourselves to death, ain't that the cowboy way to go?
Tonight we ride, tonight we ride

Tonight we fly, we're headin' west
Toward the mountains and the ocean where the eagle makes his nest
If our bones bleach on the desert, we'll consider we are blessed
Tonight we ride, Tonight we ride
Tonight we ride, tonight we ride.



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