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Fellas old Teddy would roll over in his grave should the 405 be left out..I'm heavy in 45 straight walls but have a new found respect for the 405 especially when pushed over 2K..It's a tiger by the tail and gives any 45/70 a run for its money in penetration..

Aaaaahhhh yes, the Big Medicine!

That round made quite a reputation with a 300 grain bullet and fairly brisk velocities.

I knqw the .45-70 does pretty good with a 300 grainer and 2K+ velocity, but with a better sectional density, the .405 should dig deeper. You have to go to a bullet weight of 380 grains with the .45-70 to equal the .405's 300 grain SD.

Vic,,I have a custom 400 gr gas check mold on order for the 405 just to play around with..Like Gunner I'm a Hindenburg fan in all big bores..the bigger the better ! Only question will it stabilize? Wife said what can I get you for Christmas you don't already have two times over so the mold is inbound .

Uncle Elmer didn't think so.He said the bullets for the .405 were too lightly constructed and poor penetration was common. He said the .35 Winchester gave much better penetration.

Mike,,Uncle Elmer's statement may have been somewhat accurate in the day but hardly applicable to the present with the advent of new bullets such as TSX,.Woodleigh Northfork and others.The 405's rise in popularity has not been solely for nostalgia but in its versatility especially when chambered in the '95 Win or clones.

The .405 seemed to have worked well on soft-skinned targets, but back in Elmer's day, velocity was the bane of bullets, with no premium examples available.

The .35's 250 grain bullet has a higher sectional density, and with a MV of 2100 or so fps, I can see why it would possibly penetrate better.

Woody, if it stabilizes, that heavy of a bullet ought to penetrate!

Absolutely, trajectories are a near given any shot, anywhere, anytime, especially at ranges lever guns are fired, the heavies buck wind better and are massive penetrators, for example, a 50 A.E. with it's 50 cal 325 gr shirt button stubby bullet can never be a big bore.

'Ol Ted probably wouldn't mind 'heavy medium', he sorta looked like a heavy medium himself, I can tell you what 40 cal and 400 grains will do in the 400 Whelen and 40-65 Sharps rifle, everyone knows what they've been getting done for over 100 years in Africa for ALL game in the 416 Rigby and 404 Jeffery ;]

Congrats on the new mould, plus, you can find bullet stabilization charts online to see exactly what the twist in your rifle will stabilize.

Jerry, this new 400 grain mold drops a bullet which is the 40 cal clone of the 480 gr. 45 Parker Hale so with the added length of the 405 case even with the long seating depth there's still enough boiler room to get this behemoth up to speed !

Now that put a big grin on my face!

Ed

Ed, hopefully the profile will do what it does so well in 45 attire. Anxious for its arrival it'll top 400 grs easily with 30:1 alloy... This bullet might just kill some big animals really dead, but shouldn't kill smaller animals TOO dead.

Just put some good lanyards on your dentures. Hang on to your hat!

Guess I'll get to see just how good my new Kick Killer recoil pad works on the '95 ..Their claim to fame is a 50% reduction...

That looks like it will help. You get to chunking that big ol' bullet, you're gonna appreciate it.

Rather fond of 40's and the 400-410 gr. bullet myself. My Shiloh #1 Sporter in 40-70 SS and the Lyman 410 gr. cast bullet will go through a deer lengthways. Worked up a cast load for my Ruger #1 in 450/400 using the same bullet over Trail Boss and ended up with nearly identical ballistics to the 40-70. Can't imagine results would be any different. I keep some full house 450/400 loads on hand in case we ever have an influx of elephant or Cape Buffalo in our garden.

Those work pretty well. I put one on my .50-90 C. Sharps hunters carbine. Don't think it "reduces" the recoil, but makes it a less painful and more pleasant experience!

That's so reassuring !