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Hi there,
I would like to build a 'lightweight' tang safety and was hoping someone here have done it before? I know they are pretty heavy to begin with but would like to know how light can they be made?
How much weight can they loose with barrel contour, stock, fluting of bolt?
Thanks
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Start with a Brown PoundR or mcmillan hunters compact with edge fill. What cartridge will this Ruger house?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Start with a Brown PoundR or mcmillan hunters compact with edge fill. What cartridge will this Ruger house? McMillan does not offer edge fill for Rugers
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Start with a Brown PoundR or mcmillan hunters compact with edge fill. What cartridge will this Ruger house? McMillan does not offer edge fill for Rugers That sucks. I know I've seen Brown PoundR stocks for tang safety rifles. Strange that mcmillan does not offer edge fill for Rugers...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Bansner High Tech makes a Ruger M77 stock
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Best to start with a Remington 700. I love Rugers and own more of them than Remingtons, but they will never be lightweight.
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Been there and done that. I just weighed my SS Ruger Mk ll five minutes ago on my digital fish scale and it is 6 pounds 14 ounces empty. It is a short action 7mm-08 with a Brown Precision Kevlar stock, solid bedded SS 20" Shilen match grade barrel with a #1 taper, 1.5x6x42 Zeiss Diavari V 30 mm scope, Nylon camo sewn on sling, 1/2" Decelerator butt pad, all green camo painted. Perfect as my go to whitetail rifle.
My other auto is a .45
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Hi there,
I would like to build a 'lightweight' tang safety and was hoping someone here have done it before? I know they are pretty heavy to begin with but would like to know how light can they be made?
How much weight can they loose with barrel contour, stock, fluting of bolt?
Thanks
I got nothing for you, other than being an unabashed Ruger Tang safety fan and would love to see your finished project and a write up on what all you end up doing. I have a 30-06 tanger in my safe that I'd planned on sending off to RJ Renner and having turned into a Faux Rigby, but this is an idea too.
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Hi there,
I would like to build a 'lightweight' tang safety and was hoping someone here have done it before? I know they are pretty heavy to begin with but would like to know how light can they be made?
How much weight can they loose with barrel contour, stock, fluting of bolt?
Thanks
Stop now. Dave
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A mid weight fine and it would be a great rifle but you can't get to the really light weight range with a Ruger. Once you get past the barrel and stock each oz will = mucho $$$$.
The Kevlar Graphite MPI stock is a viable option and I defiantly would go this route if I wanted a mannlicher. I would start with the Dakota pattern as it is pretty trim and fits me well.
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All I'm saying is that it's 2017. You're going to dump a lot of money into that Tanger just to fall short of an ideal lightweight.
And believe it or not, original Tangers are in the collectible phase of gun queerdom.
Dave
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Best to start with a Remington 700. I love Rugers and own more of them than Remingtons, but they will never be lightweight. Bingo ^^^Ruger 308 Hawkeye stainless all weather. 22" Barrel fluted, bolt handle skeletonized (as best it could be), bolt could not be fluted, it's a two piece bolt. As is, with a Leupold VX2 2-7X33 and sling. 7lbs 14oz, probably right @ 8lbs with 4 cartridges. Factory full zytel stock is 1oz lighter than the factory boat paddle, skeleton stock. In contrast, Remington SPS stainless all weather 257 Weatherby Mag.. 26" barrel fluted, bolt fluted, bolt handle skeletonized, factory stock. 6lbs 2oz, no scope. With a Leupold 2-7X33 it would be 6lbs 14oz, 7lbs all up. I put a Burris 2-10X40 Euro Diamond on it, I think that scope is 22-24Oz. Still lighter than the short action 308 Hawkeye. Although I like the looks of the Hawkeye, it's all esthetics, and I would not spend the money to do it again.
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I've got one that goes 7 lbs., 8 ozs. empty. It wears Ruger rings, which have been hollowed out, a hollowed out bolt knob and some other cuts. The barrel is a 24 inch Pac-Nor #1, with it's shoulder turned to minimum, but with a .600 dia . muzzle. It's a long action, chambered in .280. The stock weighs almost 2.5 lbs., a McMillian with graphite added. It would weigh 22 ozs. less, or about 6 1/4 lbs., with an MPI Kevlar stock like the ones on my M70 Fwt. or my custom mauser '06'. Both stocks go 18 ozs. ready to bolt up. E
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You could just find and buy an original tang safety Ruger 77UL. My Dad had one in 270 and it was a real shooter with handloads and a new Timney trigger. I think they came only in long action, but i’m not positive.
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How light is lightweight to you?
You won't ever make a tang safety Ruger as light as a NULA, buy if light to you is 6.5-7.5lbs then you'll be happy in the end with the tanger.
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Wildcat composites makes a 17oz stock for the tang safety Rugers.
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I love my tang safety UL in 270. I paid $340 for it about 15 years ago used with an ok scope.
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Thanks for the info guys. I understand that it is not the smartest idea ever but I have an itch and like tang safety Rugers I would love something like a montucky but they cost around $3000 around here. If I do decide to go ahead with this idea I will most definitely report back. I still think a 'light' tang safety might be pretty cool! Thanks again Pieter
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I've got one that goes 7 lbs., 8 ozs. empty. It wears Ruger rings, which have been hollowed out, a hollowed out bolt knob and some other cuts. The barrel is a 24 inch Pac-Nor #1, with it's shoulder turned to minimum, but with a .600 dia . muzzle. It's a long action, chambered in .280. The stock weighs almost 2.5 lbs., a McMillian with graphite added. It would weigh 22 ozs. less, or about 6 1/4 lbs., with an MPI Kevlar stock like the ones on my M70 Fwt. or my custom mauser '06'. Both stocks go 18 ozs. ready to bolt up. E Can you post a picture of the rifle? Cheers Pieter
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X-Bolt is a lightweight tang safety and not super expensive.
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