Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Real world differences between the .270win & .270 weatherby?

I have a custom rem700 in.270 win that I have been entertaining the idea of turning into a .270 weatherby for elk hunting. It has a 24" magnum size barrel so it's ready to go. I would like to add a PTG one piece bolt but that would be it. I see some impressive ballistic advantages written on paper compared to the std Win.

The recoil will be more. Killing effectiveness..... Meh

R26 and 150s transform the standard .270 Win into another (bigger) class of rifle imho. I'd skip the Weatherby, but that's just me...

Dave

I've got to agree with you Dave.

In no particular order:

Velocity - potential for more
Case capacity - add 15 grains, from 68 to 83
Loaded ammo and component availability - 270 Win lots of it everywhere, 270 Roy scarce everywhere
Cost - everything about the 270 Roy costs more than the 270 Win

You have to do a cost to benefit analysis based on your needs and wants.

As others have pointed out, the actual increase is less than it seems on paper.

If you specialize in hunting the Edwards Plateau, then it might make sense. For everywhere else, not so much.


Okie John

Me three.

I have both a 270 Win and a 270 Bee. If all your hunting is under 300 yards it is not worth the effort. On the other hand if you want to stretch things out the Bee has a distinct advantage. Just like a 300 Win will outclass a 30 06, same deal in the 270 calibers.

I like my 270 Bee and find it worthwhile owning. I feel it gives me an advantage on hunts like elk where those advantages can be utilized. Those type hunts are special to me as I only get to go every few years. Only you can decide what works for you.

I have both, buy a 270 Wby. Then you will have two. You can’t own too many rifles.

Have both, love both.

The 270 Win is a classic. Great for open country or the thick stuff.

The 270 Wby makes an absolutely wicked killer out of 150gr bullets. The penetration it provides is extremely impressive.

I don’t really notice a difference recoil-wise, and I can shoot the 270 Roy comfortably from a bench for as long as necessary. It just takes a rather substantial withdrawal from the bank account to do so.

With about 15 heads down, I’ve never recovered a bullet shot from the Bee, including one 150 gr NP that entered an almost straight on bull elk of around 700-800 pounds right at the point of the forward left shoulder and exited the right ham. The shot was at 175 yards.

Like I said.....wicked.

I’d take the Weatherby on any expensive hunt or for trophy bulls but would be just as happy with the 270 Win for anything else.

Question for you .270 Wby owners what ammo are you using for Elk

Hand loads with the 150 Nosler PT.

140 Accubond

150gr Nosler Partition shoots Sub 1.0 MOA in my rifle. Not much need to use anything else but I do want to try a heavy copper bullet someday. Maybe the 140 or 150gr TSX or even 130gr TTSX.

I've got a couple of each now; and a pile of .270 Wins in the past.

Real world examples;

I shoot 130s in the Wins, and with the not uncommon 22" barrels they cruise out at a bit over 3000 more or less. I like the B&C reticles and the .270s match up real well with the highest magnification and a 200 yard zero. The post makes a fine aiming reference for my rectangular 500 plate on my personal range. Used like this the trajectory curve is about the same frankly as just about everything. A .375 H&H of mine that I shoot 235 grain Speers out of can do that. They could be sighted for MPBR, but then the reticle wouldn't work.

My .270 Weatherbys are quite capable of taking a 130 grain bullet to 3500 with a listed load of 7828 and the 140 Accubond up to 3360. The one will shoot factory Weatherby Spitzers at 3700 fps at some unknown but probably to high pressure. Wouldn't know about it with-out a chronograph, pressure signs are nothing. The 26" barrels don't hurt, but in the real world that's what they have. They respond very well to being sighted in at 325 which also works out to 3" high at 100. When I'm down to aiming with the post (Infinity pin), its at a set of 3 IPSC silhouettes that I have set up at 650 yards. The one that uses the 140 Accubond has an old LPS with a mildot, and the nearly identical 2 Mils works the same way at that distance. The next dot enables me to terrorize the silhouette and plate I have up on the hill-side at 780 yards. They are in somewhat in a different league than the Wins, with much in common with STWs with hunting bullets, the .257 Weatherby, .264 with 120 NBTs, 7-300 Win with VLDs, .28 Nosler with a few, my sadly demised .300 RUM and a couple over-achieving .300 Wins that like 190 grain ABLRs quite a bit. The 6.5-300 Win would be in the same company if I didn't have that one set up with 140 VLDs and an engraved M3 knob.

In the real world my .270 Weatherbys are heavier, and recoil about the same as the .270 Wins. That is to say, not much of anything.

If you don't reload, the 270 Win is probably a better bet, unless cost is not an issue. Either way though, the Weatherby pretty much spanks the WCF. It's loud and burns lot's of powder, but the return on performance is without question. 130's at 3500 fps are amazing. Sure, RL-26 will give the WCF a boost in performance with the 150's, but it will do the same for the Weatherby. Plan on 200 -300 fps advantage over the WCF in most bullet weights. Also, you'll find the recoil on the Wetaherby to be very manageable. I would equate it to a 30-06 shooting 165-180 gr bullets.

If you want the ultimate 270 and cost is not an issue, the Weatherby is the way to go. Additionally, you won't wont be like every other hunter in the deer camp who's toting a 270 or 30-06.

Have both. Love both. But the Weatherby hits harder. We hunt pretty open ground for Whitetails and Mule Deer. 140 gr AB does the job great with a 300yd zero.

So with the R26 with 150s what are we talking about with ballistics

Keep the 270 and buy a 300 magnum of your choosing.

Excellent advice Super... The more I use my .270 the more I like it, but the .300 is even better..