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I'll just leave this bit of history here. If you buy it, don't drill and tap it.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/717492872

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Hmmmm,,,,

A bit skeptical on the provenance of that one.

But ive been wrong many times before.

Thanks for posting!


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No sorry,, but it's not.

I have the same stamps. They were made some years ago by a man in Montana as exact copies of the real ones. I use them too but when I make a recreation of a Hawken I always put my marks on it so this kind of thing can't happen.

The gun from the link is not a genuine Hawken and it was probably made in the early 1980s or late 1970s.

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No need to apologize, it ain't mine. The buy it now for $135,000 may be a little high then.

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Yeah........A little.

My guess is about $134,300 high.

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yeah the "providence" on it leaves me a little leery of making a starting bid!
there is no way the Patina is from the 1840's


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I saw that a few days ago and thought it looked a little too dressed up and too clean for a rifle that could be nearly 200-years old.


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Humm, buy a house or a Hawkin. Honey can I get a new gun?


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Originally Posted by centershot
Humm, buy a house or a Hawkin. Honey can I get a new gun?


Yeah, no foolin' The rich are different and I don't think they go to places like GB to buy their muzzle loaders.


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Can I interest anyone in some beach front property in Arizona ?


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I have seen two S. Hawkin rifles in the Smithsonian in D.C. Not even close Sam Hawkins father had a gunsmith shop in Hagerstown. Maryland before relocating to St. Louis.

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http://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/B039_Reisner.pdf

Mr. Reisner had about a dozen or so of these on display at the Texas Gun Collectors Assn show in Dallas about 1983 or 84. Very nice man and very nice rifles!


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So I have to ask this. If the seller thinks he has the real deal then why doesn't he go to a high en auction house to sell it? Again, GB is kind of the shopping mall of firearms and I wouldn't expect to find the Hope Diamond at Sears. Selling any authentic Hawken on GB just seems dumb or suspicious to me.


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