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No this is a question for walking in timber and woods were shots are under 50yards! Under 50! Would you carry a 233!semi-auto with great ammo or a 44mag Carbine?
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44 mag, hands down. Hornady leverevolution ammo is great.
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I have a Ruger #3 with a conquest 1.2-5 for my "short range" hunts. It shoots 3 shot cloverleafs using 305 gr HSM bear loads.
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I'm a little surprised. I figured the 223 at under 50yards with a good hunting round dumps more energy!
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44mag. 223 has killed deer for me, but, even with premium bullets hitting where I want, they run more than I prefer.
Granted, I prefer to not shoot the shoulder, as it wastes more meat.
44mag just behind the shoulder>.223 for me.
If you are going to hit the shoulder with a TSX, 6 of one, half dozen of the other IMO
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If they both shoot equally well and you can count on either bullet to do the job I would use the one with less recoil or the one that I preferred carrying or shooting quickly. I don't usually worry much about energy with deer, I worry about putting a good bullet in a good place.
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No this is a question for walking in timber and woods were shots are under 50yards! Under 50! Would you carry a 233!semi-auto with great ammo or a 44mag Carbine? I'd pick up my Ruger 44 International under this scenario.
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I'm a little surprised. I figured the 223 at under 50yards with a good hunting round dumps more energy! Energy? You actually pay attention to that crap? It's a mathematical computation of the sort that proves that bees can't fly. I look at results instead.
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Marlin 1894 loaded with the 270 grain Speer Gold Dot SP is the best deer medicine ever for those heavy cover short shots.
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At 50 yards or less, I'll take the .44 mag. A WW Trapper with the 16" barrel & a 260 gr WFN LBT Hardcast bullet at 1600 FPS is deadly on big feral hogs here at the Ranch.
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Whatever I wanted to. Either will work plenty well if used correctly.
50 yards is getting a bit out there with a 44 handgun, but you said carbine. Though I've no issues with handguns at 50 with irons, as long as you are capable, its really not that hard of a shot given you have a good rest.
OTOH ain't no deer alive that will walk away from a 50 yard hit with a 223...
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Won't survive walking away I should say
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I recovered a 44 mag slug out of a dirt bank I shoot into it was 2" across most 223 bullets shot into the same bank explode on impact or I'll just find the base part I wouldn't want to be shot with either but the 44 mag would have the advantage as far as stopping power I'll tote mine in the morning to prove it
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Should I ever find myself hunting dirt banks I'll remember that. I'm sure they require a lot of 'stopping power'
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44 Mag carbine, hardcast shank with a fat, pure lead expanding softnose.
As much respect as I have for the speed and effectiveness of a .223 class cartridge, especially with monos, it pales at the ranges described with modified cast bullets, especially worst case scenario/odd angles.
Of course its mostly about bullets. Lead can do what jacketed stuff does but at lower speed.
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223 with 62 Barnes. Kills 200 lb pigs with ease.
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