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I've used it quite a bit out of a 7-08. It does really well at about 2800. Ive only shot deer and hogs with it. It usually exits on a broadside shot if a shoulder isn't hit. Otherwise, sonetimes there's an exit and sometimes not. I like it but it wouldn't be my go to for elk
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I'm not anti ballistic tip, I've lost count of the number of whitetails I've killed with the 140 BT out of a 7mm rem mag, well over 100 I'm sure. Out of those I can't remember ever having an exit hole.
Over a hundred whitetails without an exit is a pretty strong record. Not all bullet designs need an exit to work but 0/100 is not really what I'm looking for. I'm thinking there must be something different about the 120 and 150 (both have a reputation as a tough bullet) vs the 140. People like dogzapper have killed a truckload of BG with the 120 and swear by it. Same with the 150, I recall Mark D. had killed a truckload of elk with it. And then you hear anecdotes like the one here: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...6/gonew/1/the-280ai-strikes-again#UNREADMaybe I'll just stick with the 150.
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While it's a great deer bullet, there's no way I'd shoot one at an elk as long as the accubond was available for just a few pennies more. That choice is a no-brainer in my opinion.
The few times I've used accubonds i was not overly impressed. Why not? Lots of bullet fragments in the meat even at slow speeds. And yes, I know that lots of people swear by them.
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Why did you shoot the animal in the meaty part? I used the 140 gr. Ballistic tips on a few animals, it worked exactly as expected and as designed. Which is a bullet designed to expand at long range and physics demands that any bullet designed to expand at low velocities will expand even more at higher velocities. If you used this bullet at high velocities at close range and hit meat what would you expect?
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Why did you shoot the animal in the meaty part? ? I didn't shoot the animals in the meaty part, bullet fragments came from the ribs. And I didn't shoot the animals at high velocity. 2,800 fps MV at 300 and 400 yards. Have you used the 140 Ballistic tips on animals bigger than deer? That's the subject of the thread, not Accubonds. I'm not arguing about accubonds, as I said, I understand that many people swear by them.
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Bullet fragments in ribs don't concern me at all. I haven't used the 140 on game larger than deer but have used the 150 gr. Ballistic Tips on Aoudad and Waterbuck which are pretty chunky and elk. I'm sure there were fragments in the ribs but I don't keep the ribs so it doesn't concern me.
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I load my 7 mag140 Ballistic tips at 3100 fps. I shoot them right in the front shoulders. Dead right there. I don’t like looking for dead deer in the cactus, dodging rattle snakes. I hunt close to the fence line, gone if they go over.
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Bullet fragments in ribs don't concern me at all. That's good to know. Hanco, how do the 140s hold up on those shoulder shots?
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Interesting. I'd always heard that it was the 120 that was beefed up for silhouette shooters. You learn something new every day, thanks. [/quote]
This is true but the demand for the 120 first came from IHMSA pistol shooters but became popular with the rifle shooters too.
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I have shot deer for years with 140 gr BT 3265 fps 7mmRemMag
but in 2017 I decided to try 140 gr accubond
I zero'd the scope at 260 yards instead of 200.
I just wanted to be different this year.
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I'll be watching this topic as I'm currently working with 150 BT, then see if 150 AB shoot the same. Found 2800 fps w/imr4350 for the 150. 21" bbl.
Like to try the 140 BT. Goal of 2900 fps for this boolit. They don’t make a 7mm 150 grain Accubond. The 150 BT is tough Well, the Nosler AccuBond Long Range box in front of me (nosler p/n 58734, 7mm caliber (.284 spitzer) 150 grain, 100 ct.) says Nosler does make a 150 ab. G1BC=.611, G7BC=.309 Has a gray polymer tip. Box says I can kill deer, elk, bear, moose, african game. Wonder if it will a pronghorn at 200 yards? Might over-penetrate. Gotcha, I thought you were referring to a regular Accubond/Ballistic Tip combo, like the 140 grainers which are identical. The ABLR is different from the 150 BT so might not match up well.
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I'll be watching this topic as I'm currently working with 150 BT, then see if 150 AB shoot the same. Found 2800 fps w/imr4350 for the 150. 21" bbl.
Like to try the 140 BT. Goal of 2900 fps for this boolit. They don’t make a 7mm 150 grain Accubond. The 150 BT is tough Well, the Nosler AccuBond Long Range box in front of me (nosler p/n 58734, 7mm caliber (.284 spitzer) 150 grain, 100 ct.) says Nosler does make a 150 ab. G1BC=.611, G7BC=.309 Has a gray polymer tip. Box says I can kill deer, elk, bear, moose, african game. Wonder if it will a pronghorn at 200 yards? Might over-penetrate. Gotcha, I thought you were referring to a regular Accubond/Ballistic Tip combo, like the 140 grainers which are identical. The ABLR is different from the 150 BT so might not match up well. The AB and the LRAB are not really the same bullet. About the only things they have in common are the bonding process and the name on the box.
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I thought you were referring to a regular Accubond/Ballistic Tip combo, like the 140 grainers which are identical. Identical, come again?
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They went right through, broke both shoulders, deer dead in his tracks. I have killed many 150lb and up pigs the same way, goes all the way through. I use a lot of ballistic tips and Barnes TTSX.
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I thought you were referring to a regular Accubond/Ballistic Tip combo, like the 140 grainers which are identical. Identical, come again? Smoke, I meant identical in exterior size, shape and weight. As in, you can use the BT to sight in and practice, then swap out to the AB to hunt with. If I’m wrong, please advise. Thanks
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Got it. I think the BCs are the same so that makes sense.
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They went right through, broke both shoulders, deer dead in his tracks. I have killed many 150lb and up pigs the same way, goes all the way through. I use a lot of ballistic tips and Barnes TTSX. Thanks Hanco. Something's not adding up, with another poster saying 100+ whitetails with the 140 BT and not a single pass-through.
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If I catch pigs this weekend or get a shot at some not trapped in feeder pen, I will take pics I’ve shot several dozen with ballistic tips that passed through both shoulders. They knocked fire out of them.
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Well thanks, but not necessary. Frankly I have a hard time believing anyone could shoot 100+ whitetails with any bullet and get zero pass-throughs.
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Brother shot a mule deer with a 280 remington and a 140 ballistic tip this year. Hit ribs going in and did not exit at about 75 yards. Deer ran 40 yards and tipped over. Sample of one. I don't care about pass throughs but shoot bigger bullets in my .284 caliber stuff.
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