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Would any of you even consider a whitetail hunt on free ranging deer with an outfitter with a draw blood policy? In other words draw blood and aren't able to recover the deer and you're done hunting, pack your stuff and leave camp. I'm not talking about a high fence operation here rather free ranging fair chase deer that are property of the state. Why hunt with a guide? All your doing is shooting an animal you were led by the nose too by someone else..lol.....No thanks, that aint for me....Hb
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i'm not paying any outfitter to hunt any animal. sorry but i'm very happy with the animals i hunt at home. How long does your deer hunting season last (with firearm) there in VA? Isn't it like 7 days? rifles season goes for 2 weeks from Nov 18th-Dec 2nd West of the Blue Ridge and last much longer East of the Blue Ridge, hence the very low chance of killing a quality buck.....Not to mention a 2 week early muzzleloader season that runs from Nov 4th -Nov 17th, and with 2 or 3 buck tags for every hunter a buck has mighty little chance of ever reaching maturity in Virginia ........Hb
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i'm not paying any outfitter to hunt any animal. sorry but i'm very happy with the animals i hunt at home. How long does your deer hunting season last (with firearm) there in VA? Isn't it like 7 days? rifles season goes for 2 weeks from Nov 18th-Dec 2nd West of the Blue Ridge and last much longer East of the Blue Ridge, hence the very low chance of killing a quality buck..... Not to mention a 2 week early muzzleloader season that runs from Nov 4th -Nov 17th, and with 2 or 3 buck tags for every hunter a buck has mighty little chance of ever reaching maturity in Virginia ........Hb Yep, the state seems to want quantity or quality these days. I'm on the southern side of Montgomery County[2 week rifle] but can drive 5 miles south to Floyd co and gain 2 more weeks of rifle. This was also Montg. co's first EAB season.
FJB & FJT
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i'm not paying any outfitter to hunt any animal. sorry but i'm very happy with the animals i hunt at home. It's a big world - you should consider experiencing some of it.
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As he has aged, a friend of mine started signing up for deeded land guided deer/elk here in Oregon. I'll admit the guy is not the most composed in the world when game appears, and he got what he thought was a rude awakening. On his first outing he missed a shot at a running elk and the guide immediately cleared out to go work with other clients. Seems the fine print guaranteed him a shot, so the outfitter had fulfilled his end of the bargain. He was allowed to continue hunting, but had to use his rigs and equipment.
I'm surprised that folks were allowed to continue on their own given the potential of getting in the way of other paying clients.
Given my experience with him on standing game, my response was "one should never have tried on a running elk to begin with."
Last edited by 1minute; 12/07/17.
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Now if we can just get bow hunters to punch tags for non-recovered deer.............
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No problem for me.
Between the OPs last two posts I'm guessing there's a story from this weekend (probably Saturday) that's not been told. Still no full accounting of how this all happened from the OP...
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I have that policy on everything from $2500 antelope hunts to insanely expensive sheep hunts. We have a limited resource that we manage extensively and we make it abundantly clear that drawing blood means that’s your animal and we will hunt for that animal for the duration of your hunt.
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I’m curious as to what the story is behind the post....
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I’m curious as to what the story is behind the post.... You and me both!
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seems chitty marksmanship and butthurt go hand in hand.....
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That’s why you shoot the animal in the shoulders. They are dead right there. Hmm.. we trailed for 3 hours with my dog on a shoulder shot deer last sunday night.. that deer is still walking... had he punched him in the lungs in the crease the buck would have been dead and we would not have even been called...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Campfire Kahuna
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Do y'all count crippled/lost ducks in your limit? I do. Most don't. If I wing one and it sails off, thats a dead bird whether I find it or not. Same with other birds. I"ve seen a warden issue a ticket to a guy for not doing it to. I"m not overly happy with that, I don't think it was right personally. But ethics are a personal thing. Wonder how many folks have found a dead bird ... duck, probably close to 3/4 mile away, but with the help of my lab obviously, actually it was wounded but we recovered it. My buddy says you'll never find him... LOL watch us. We've managed geese even further out. I"ve wasted hours of time according to one buddy, looking for bird a few times, ones I KNOW had to be in a certain area..... Warden even complimented me once, as they had watched with a spotting scope...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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seems chitty marksmanship and butthurt go hand in hand..... ^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^ LOL !
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"Kids who grow up hunting, fishing & trapping, do not mug little old Ladies"
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If you never found him, How do you know he was hit in the shoulder?
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if you didn't recover it, how do you know it was hit in the shoulder?
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Yes.
My brother has a co-worker who bow hunts our family farm. Every year he woulds at least one buck and just keeps hunting. Makes me ill.
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i'm not paying any outfitter to hunt any animal. sorry but i'm very happy with the animals i hunt at home. It's a big world - you should consider experiencing some of it. Could only imagine how happy you would be Scotty if you killed something someone else did point out for you.
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i'm not paying any outfitter to hunt any animal. sorry but i'm very happy with the animals i hunt at home. It's a big world - you should consider experiencing some of it. Could only imagine how happy you would be Scotty if you killed something someone else did point out for you. Rat-killer; I think I know what you're trying to say, but, ***SHOCKER ALERT*****, you phugged it up.
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Do y'all count crippled/lost ducks in your limit? Not much of a waterfowl hunter but I count upland game birds that I drop towards my limit.
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