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Ask this guy.

He might tell you.

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/3811879-new-commander-takes-over-border-patrol-grand-forks

You're related to Aaron Heitke?





Dave

Howyoudoinhowyoudoinhowyoudoin'.

Not me.

But he wishes I were.

Ok.




Dave

True, but you said that there is Nothing in the manuals that says anything about throwing rocks (projectiles) and you were proven wrong.

I will read it again and look for the word rock.


Thanks.




Dave

Remember this?



Page 6, again.

F. Use of Safe Tactics

1. Authorized Officers/Agents should seek to employ enforcement tactics and
techniques that effectively bring an incident under control, while promoting the
safety of the officer/agent and the public, and minimizing the risk for unintended
injury and/or property damage.

2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized
Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject
vehicle. Officers/agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving
vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.

3. Authorized Officers/Agents should, whenever reasonable, avoid placing
themselves in positions where they have no alternative to using deadly force.

4. Authorized Officers/Agents shall not discharge their firearms in response to
thrown or launched projectiles unless the officer/agent has a reasonable belief,
based on the totality of circumstances (to include the size and nature of the
projectiles), that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of serious
physical injury or death to the officer/agent or to another person.

Officers/agents may be able to obtain a tactical advantage in these situations,
through measures such as seeking cover or distancing themselves from the
immediate area of danger.

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/UseofForcePolicyHandbook.pdf

There it is again, right in your face in black-n-white. Are you getting tired of being wrong yet?

Reading is for idiots.

I clicked the link to the Use of Force Policy Handbook (notice it's not "ROE" or "Rules of Engagement"). When the .pdf opened, I searched the doc for the word "rock" and came up with zero results.

I'm still waiting for the 2018 version with the work "rock." Maybe for Xmas.

Did you find the doc for the words "moving vehicle"?

It on page 6

actually there was another one in the tucson sector, he eventually got off tho, but they did try to hang him.

Steve,

You are correct. The Use of Force policy does state officers/agents shouldn't stand in front of moving vehicles. My understanding is that sentence was added after they hired one too many Minnesotan's.

You'll also note the Use of Force Policy doesn't say an agent can't use deadly force to prevent being seriously injured or killed by a vehicle.





Dave

LOL

Typical, you have learned well, when confronted with facts that prove one is either an idiot, a liar, or both, resort to personal attacks. Akin to calling anyone who disagrees with Obama or proves him an idiot and a liar a "racist" or anyone that disagrees with Hillary or proves her wrong, a Sexist. Yup, you have learned well, you should be proud.

Do you really consider what I wrote a personal attack?




Clark

Could not find any reference to chief border patrol commander but I found this.

There are 20 Border Patrol sectors, each headed by a Sector Chief Patrol Agent.

Just to clarify your comment, how many Minnesotans were hired and how many is "one to many"?

Yeah...

I think perhaps your and my senses of humor are not synced.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving.





Clark

One or more.

TFF





Travis