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Two adjacent big box stores have 2 different CCI loads. I am familiar with the 17gr vmax but the 17gr TNT is new to me. Any experience with it here?
I also see the 20 gr gamepoint online but have seen none of it for sale. Love to hear aboot it as well. The TNT 17's shoots markedly better than VMAX 17's in both of my HMR's. They've become my preferred prairie dog round.
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In my CZ 455, the Hornady 17gr VMAX ammo (at least the lot I have) produces the smallest groups although the Federal V-Shok 17gr HP is so close that it could be a toss-up. The CCI A-17 and the Win Varmint HV 17 gr Polytips were the least accurate with both producing 5 shots groups of ~1.0 to 1.5" at 60 meters. In my CZ 455, the A-17 ammo's velocity is only ~ 100 fps faster than the standard Hornady 17gr V-Max at 2706 fps vs. 2625 fps, respectively, and those are averages of many rounds measured with my Oehler chronograph.
But my 17 HM2 CZ 452 shooting Eley ammo loaded with 17gr VMax bullets is so much more accurate that it's my favorite, and I don't miss the extra 500 fps provided by the 17HMR. So, if someone wants a nice CZ455 in 17HMR just let me know. What are you going to do when you run out of Eley 17HM2 ammo?
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I did some work for a friend on a Volquartsen that another guy had restocked. After I finished, I tried several different kinds of .17 HMR and it shot the A 17 ammo into the smallest 10-shot groups that I have ever seen. Volquartson recommends (quite strongly) new owners shoot the A17 ammo.
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In my CZ 455, the Hornady 17gr VMAX ammo (at least the lot I have) produces the smallest groups although the Federal V-Shok 17gr HP is so close that it could be a toss-up. The CCI A-17 and the Win Varmint HV 17 gr Polytips were the least accurate with both producing 5 shots groups of ~1.0 to 1.5" at 60 meters. In my CZ 455, the A-17 ammo's velocity is only ~ 100 fps faster than the standard Hornady 17gr V-Max at 2706 fps vs. 2625 fps, respectively, and those are averages of many rounds measured with my Oehler chronograph.
But my 17 HM2 CZ 452 shooting Eley ammo loaded with 17gr VMax bullets is so much more accurate that it's my favorite, and I don't miss the extra 500 fps provided by the 17HMR. So, if someone wants a nice CZ455 in 17HMR just let me know. What are you going to do when you run out of Eley 17HM2 ammo? I won't live that long since I have several cases....
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In my CZ 455, the Hornady 17gr VMAX ammo (at least the lot I have) produces the smallest groups although the Federal V-Shok 17gr HP is so close that it could be a toss-up. The CCI A-17 and the Win Varmint HV 17 gr Polytips were the least accurate with both producing 5 shots groups of ~1.0 to 1.5" at 60 meters. In my CZ 455, the A-17 ammo's velocity is only ~ 100 fps faster than the standard Hornady 17gr V-Max at 2706 fps vs. 2625 fps, respectively, and those are averages of many rounds measured with my Oehler chronograph.
But my 17 HM2 CZ 452 shooting Eley ammo loaded with 17gr VMax bullets is so much more accurate that it's my favorite, and I don't miss the extra 500 fps provided by the 17HMR. So, if someone wants a nice CZ455 in 17HMR just let me know. What are you going to do when you run out of Eley 17HM2 ammo? I won't live that long since I have several cases.... In my CZ 455, the Hornady 17gr VMAX ammo (at least the lot I have) produces the smallest groups although the Federal V-Shok 17gr HP is so close that it could be a toss-up. The CCI A-17 and the Win Varmint HV 17 gr Polytips were the least accurate with both producing 5 shots groups of ~1.0 to 1.5" at 60 meters. In my CZ 455, the A-17 ammo's velocity is only ~ 100 fps faster than the standard Hornady 17gr V-Max at 2706 fps vs. 2625 fps, respectively, and those are averages of many rounds measured with my Oehler chronograph.
But my 17 HM2 CZ 452 shooting Eley ammo loaded with 17gr VMax bullets is so much more accurate that it's my favorite, and I don't miss the extra 500 fps provided by the 17HMR. So, if someone wants a nice CZ455 in 17HMR just let me know. What are you going to do when you run out of Eley 17HM2 ammo? I won't live that long since I have several cases.... So I assume that you're not seeing the neck splits in your Eley 17HM2 that have been reported at RFC?
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Nope, I don't recall that I've ever seen a split neck on any of my fired Eley 17HM2 cases, but I have read about it happening.
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