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No time for finger pointing, that changes nothing. Gotta look forward, not back.

Looking forward means absolutely nothing unless you know where you’ve been...and why.

There certainly some on this board who voted for the Zero, once or twice, and still crow loudly and proudly about it.

I would guess that the people on this board that voted for zero are wards of the state. Lazy, ignorant, and selfish.

That is exactly right, History is very important to the direction of the future, to ignore it is a dangerous practice.

Yes, I also talked to an active Navy pilot last week & he also confirmed the training via flight simulators; he was recently re-assigned from Hawaii to an AF base in Oklahoma. Says he won't actually be flying a plane again for a year & says he likely will not re-up but will probably go to a commercial airline job instead.

My son is an E5 & until his current assignment, was on a Aegis cruiser in the 7th fleet; he says morale is better since Trump was elected but not exactly sky high. He's coming up on a re-up the middle of next year & has not yet made up his mind on what he's going to do yet.

MM

In that regard he was very successful, he accomplished much of what he set out to do.

When someone rants to me about how incompetent Obama was I tell them that’s not true, he was extremely competent at dividing the country and instituting socialism. Those were his goals and he succeed at much of it. He never intended to do anything good for America.

You are 100% correct..............sadly.

MM

I truly detested obongo but after seeing the corruption and witnessing the alternate agenda of the deep state I don’t know how much responsibility he actually owns. I’m not seeing too much difference between Bush, Klinton and Obongo. Trump is an altogether different beast, completely different from a lifelong political swamp dweller. Obongo didn’t care about the country and allowed the deep state to carry on without interference from the lowly POTUS.

Exactly right. Spot on.

Perpetual war is a bitch.

Obama was/is a POS, but congress writes the checks. The Senate is probably the most responsible for our current decline. The House has voted to properly fund the military & repeal O care, but Mitch, McCain & company do all they can to obstruct America

Has everyone forgotten one of his early speeches where he said the US was one of the greatest nations in the world and he was going to change that.
he was the puppet created and sent to do the job he was groomed to do.

Hil, Hussein and the lot are Maoists, Communists, whatever you want to call them.

A good chunk here already knew that. It's getting POS family members, tit suckers and filth to understand everyone's way of life and peace is at jeopardy and most think they're going to be exempted from nature's course....

there is no other conclusion a person can draw. Barack hussein and his handlers, his sponsors, hated America. Their goal from the git go was to do as much damage as possible. Aided and abetted by progressive republicans, they sowed chaos and damage across the entire fabric of the Country. Socially, economically, militarily, scientifically. It will take years to undo the damage, if indeed, it can be undone at all.

Material issues can be reversed in short order with appropriate funding and procurement (Regan did it). However, the systematic destruction of the Warrior Culture via social engineering I doubt can ever be repaired.

Unfortunately, we need both the material fabric rebuilt & as well as re-establishing the Warrior Culture rebuilt ASAP as the cheese in Asia is beginning to get binding; if we can't do it, then we are really fu^cked & in the not too distant future, the country as we have known it will no longer exist.

And that is a pretty scary scenario, at least to my thinking.

MM

I agree but what about Israel ? They live it every minute of every day.


Iran: Israel Will Be 'Eradicated' In Next War

One of Iran's top military commanders has said the Islamic Republic will intervene in any future conflict between Israel and its paramilitary ally in Lebanon, Hezbollah.

Mohammed Ali Jafri, the commander of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), said it was clear Lebanon was Israel’s primary focus and as such Iran and its network of proxy forces would unite to intervene against an attack.

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"It is a proven claim that today we say any new war will lead to the eradication of the Zionist regime," Jafri said, according to the semi-official Iranian news agency Fars.

Jafri’s comments were made against a backdrop of increasing tension between Iran and Saudi Arabia over the rival nation’s proxy wars across the Middle East but particularly over internal strains in Lebanon.

A meeting of the Arab League in Cairo called by Saudi Arabia on Sunday condemned the powerful Lebanese militia Hezbollah and Iran, accusing both of supporting terrorism and extremist groups with advanced weapons and ballistic missiles.

In response the Lebanese president Michel Auon defended Hezbollah, saying his country was subject to Israeli aggression and, as such, had the right to protect itself.

On November 4 Lebanon was thrust to the forefront of Sunni Riyadh and Shiite Tehran’s power struggle when the country’s leader, Saad Hariri, resigned during a visit to Saudi Arabia. Since returning to Beirut Hariri has agreed to stay on in his role at the request of Hezbollah-backed Aoun, despite having said specifically that he would allow himself to become a pawn in Iran’s meddling in Lebanese affairs.

In a Thursday interview with the New York Times Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince, Mohammed Bin Salman, said Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khameni, the Supreme Leader of Iran, was the “new Hitler of the Middle East.” He went on to further compare the sectarian power struggle in the region between Riyadh and Tehran to Europe in World War II.

Om Tuesday, the commander of the Lebanese Armed Forces, a lesser force to the battle-hardened Hezbollah militia, called for his troops to prepare to confront Israel amid the escalation.

According to the Times of Israel, General Joseph Aoun warned that Israel had hostile intentions against Lebanon, its people, and army. “I call upon you… to be fully prepared on the southern border to confront the Israeli enemy’s threats and violations,” he said in a s speech.

Israel has repeatedly intervened in the war in neighboring Syria to stop Hezbollah from establishing a foothold on the border. On Monday Israel’s Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman requested a $1 billion over a three year period to boost the country’s defense in light of developments in Syria.


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