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About 10 years ago I bought a bunch of Berger 210gr VLD's that shoot very well so I have not got around to any of their newer offerings, they perform awesome at long range.

Please post a pic of this giant......I'm not being a prick....I really wanna see a 71" moose

Here ya go....45" bull inside 71" bull.

Shooting anything less than a 200gr bullet in a 300 is like putting a 3 cylinder engine in a Ferrari. Go with 208 Eldm's or 215 Berger Hybrid and 75-77gr of H-1000 with a mag primer.

Shot a spike elk with a 178 eld-x factory cartridge out of my 308 this year, 409 ranged yards - bang flop. lungs were a mess, boolit not recovered but it was somewhere inside of the offside ribcage as evidenced by the trauma on exterior of off side rib cage.

I'll be trying the 200 eld-x in my 300 wsm once I'm done with break in and final configuration.

I have a 75 Finnlight in 300 WM.

Was shooting 180 TSX with 77.5 grains of H1000 at 2918 FPS and get .625 MOA.

Shot an elk at 605 yards. 2 hits, with second round recovered. Looked like a advertising photo of perfect 4 petal peel back.

This year I went to the 200 grain accubonds with 77.5 grains of H1000 at 2852 FPS and get .75MOA.

Use federal brass with federal match magnum primers. Same powder charge ironically but no pressure signs on the heavier load but its only 0.5 above book max. I had tried the 180 TSX up to 80 grains of H1000 but accuracy got weird.

The accubonds give me more comfort on the longer ranges of 600 to 750 yards based on what i have read on terminal performance for the two loads. 750 is about the farthest I feel comfortable at on an elk.

I honestly think the heavier accubonds kick less also and just give more of a push rather than that bitch slap of the TSX.

Got a rag horn at 200 yard this year with the 200 A/B. First round passed through both lungs and he turned 180 degrees like he wanted to follow the cows downslope. I immediately put a second round through front shoulders and he literally dropped straight down. Second round was recovered on far hide and it was an ugly mushroom of death after double blading.

Have you tried the 175gr or 200gr LRX?

I have tried the 175 LRX and they shot okay and I was going to tinker more with them but I kept getting them stuck in my seating die. They would get stuck in the seating cup and pull out of the bullet case on the up stroke. I guess I need a custom seating die to handle the extremely pointy projos.

Anyway, it was September and I needed to get my load down as time was short before heading out to hunt; and the 200 grain A/B shot quite nicely in both my sako and my sendero so I just went with it.

200 grain bullets at 2852 on target is more than serviceable. 😜

Ask John Barsness about the 300 mags and 180 partitions... those were built for 30-06. 200 partitions yes. I learned almost the hard way a few times running 180 partitions in 300 wtby around 3100 fps... Of course then moved to Barnes and was happy.

What I never had heard is Scenars are a bit tougher than Bergers.. NOW I want to try them.. in my 308. Sure hope the come in somehting like 210 or so.

Out of the same guns per the MV parameters, IE not driving them to fast or to slow, I"ve seen anything from zero expansion after hitting ribs to the core/jacket separating.

The last time I ever used them I shot 2 does and a pig. Both does in the head. 7 mag 160 game kings. Not overly hot even as the gun did not like max loads. Both does within 150 yards. FIrst was caliber in and a hair bigger out. Next one was caliber in and took the off side of the head basically off. The pig was about 50 pounds. Around 125 yards. Shot in the neck back of the head going away from me, bullet blew up and never left any exit.

Previous to that I"ve seen them do similar things from 243, 308 and 06 also.

I can deal with reliable if its always pin holes or always huge holes, I cannot deal well with erratic.

Only other bullet I saw jacket core separations as much on were core lokts.

I have a load for this bullet in a .30-06, MV 2840. Any idea of the actual MV of the factory .308 load? The actual MV of the .30-06 factory was 100 fps or so slower than the box.





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