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I read here and there on our forum that the 300 gr Nosler Partition is not a particularly good choice for Cape Buff, when using a .375 H&H rifle.

I don't have much experience with the 375, having shot only a few black bears with mine, all with the 260 gr Nosler Accubond.

What is the issue with the 300 gr Partition? Curious, because they shoot quite well for me, and I had intended to use them for dangerous game, perhaps cape buffalo if I can make that trip happen.

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Guy,

in the old days they were very good, now use a stronger bullet like the aframe.
nosler partition in 300 grains will work very well on lion if needed.

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I know there are many that have successfully used it as you require. That said, my owner/guide on my SE Alaskan brown bear hunt or four PH's on my recent buffalo hunt in Zimbabwe had little good to say about it, with the latter having the same view regardless of round used. All with many years of experience. They all were fine with the TSX, A-Frame and Bear Claw and particularly pleased I was using the TSX. Just a few seasoned folks view.


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I can't speak about Cape buffalo but as far as brown bears go 300 grain partitions don't do them any good at all. I've killed a bunch of them with this bullet from 2-50 yards and never had a bad experience. Stem to stern penetration is common. The recovered ones consistently have 75-80% weight retention.

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Don't know about the 300 gr 375's, but, I have a lot of ammo loaded wit the 400 gr .416 and 500 gr .458 Partitions, from what little I know, I wouldn't be afraid to hammer anything with either except an Elephant skull, have BBW #13 solids in all calibers .366 and up for that.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Don't know about the 300 gr 375's, but, I have a lot of ammo loaded wit the 400 gr .416 and 500 gr .458 Partitions, from what little I know, I wouldn't be afraid to hammer anything with either except an Elephant skull, have BBW #13 solids in all calibers .366 and up for that.


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Cutting Edge Bullets makes a solid with their BBW #13 meplat.

https://cuttingedgebullets.com/375-300gr-300gr-safari-solid

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BWAAHAHAHAHAlaugh

DF's got it ;]


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Well, that is a mighty fine looking solid bullet, I'll admit.

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I don't know any reason the 300 gr partition would not work just as well on a 1600 # Cape buffalo as they do on 1600# brown bears.
they work as well as any bullet on big bruins !


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Originally Posted by 458Win
I don't know any reason the 300 gr partition would not work just as well on a 1600 # Cape buffalo as they do on 1600# brown bears.
they work as well as any bullet on big bruins !



Now there's a ringing endorsement. smile


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by 458Win
I don't know any reason the 300 gr partition would not work just as well on a 1600 # Cape buffalo as they do on 1600# brown bears.
they work as well as any bullet on big bruins !



Now there's a ringing endorsement. smile

+1

But, I wonder what those who dis the 300 NPT .375 are seeing.

Where there's smoke, maybe there is a fire. I would like details.

Maybe a cape buff is tougher than a big bear. I don't know, haven't shot either one.

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Same here DF, I've never hit a cape buff with a 375 cal NPT, with that said, every other animal across the caliber spectrum I've hit with a NPT had an immediate bad day, albeit waning fast. wink


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I can't say from actual experience because the only cartridges I have used in Africa were 404 Jeffery, and 7.62 NATO. I saw the 458 Winchester used a number of times with excellent results.

But I have a LOT of experience with the 375 in other places, and the 300 Gr Nosler Part. has been one of the best, if not THE best bullet I have ever used on everything I have shot with it. Elk, Moose, the bears I have killed, and various domestic cattle and horses are not as big or tough as cape buffalo, so if someone with actual experience were to tell me that the 300 Gr Noslet Partition was lacking on Cape Buffalo I would have to believe him, (especially if they had experience on several instead of just 1-2) but for anything I have hunted, they have been as close to perfect as a bullet could be. I love them.

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Originally Posted by 458Win
I don't know any reason the 300 gr partition would not work just as well on a 1600 # Cape buffalo as they do on 1600# brown bears.
they work as well as any bullet on big bruins !


Phil,

Brad Dennison had a different view. That's all.


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I've had PHs say they only wanted solids used on buffalo, and I've had other PHs say they wanted good softs used.

They're 1/2 right and 1/2 wrong, but which is which???

I've had PHs say they they didn't want Remingtons and Sako Safari grade rifles used for buffalo, and I had a PH that carried a 700 in 416 Rem Mag as his backup rifle.

They were 1/2 right and 1/2 wrong, but which is which???


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The ones I know who've shot'em talk about .40 cal and up.

My good bud shot a nice 41'' this year in Zim. He was shooting 400 TSX's out of his .416 Rigby, Ruger RSM, recovering a near picture perfect expanded bullet. One shot, buff ran. They followed him (probably too soon), he got up but no one got a shot. They tracked him into thick brush, both .416's at the ready, only to find him dead. They were glad he was dead in those close quarters. Could have gotten interesting... shocked

PH carried a .416 Rem, PF M-70, thought the RSM was a bit heavy, generally liked .416's for buff.

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Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by 458Win
I don't know any reason the 300 gr partition would not work just as well on a 1600 # Cape buffalo as they do on 1600# brown bears.
they work as well as any bullet on big bruins !


Phil,

Brad Dennison had a different view. That's all.


I would be interested in hearing Brad's experiences and reasoning as I have killed a lot of bears with Nosler partitions and seen a hell of a lot more killed with them and never seen any problem with them. They work as well and consistently as any bullet I have ever used, and a few years ago Nosler moved the partition forward on the .375 bullets for even more weight retention and penetration.

On the other hand I have also seen a lot of hunters who were using partitions who badly misplaced their shots but claimed they had made perfect hits and blamed the bullet.


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I've spoken with a couple SE guides who had bad results with clients who used lighter NPs in various magnum .30s with less than hoped for results. They consequently ruled that NPs aren't up to the task not realizing Nosler builds the larger partitions differently than the smaller ones. If I were forced to use a 300 RUM on a big bear I'd choose a TSX over a NP, but that will never happen because I'll keep on killing them with the .375 and 9.3 with those beautifully consistent partitions.

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