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So I'm officially done with Devcon Steel for rifle bedding. This is the 3rd container in a row where the hardening agent dried out before I used up half the kit. I'm not the only one online saying so either. It used to be a great product, but when the white putty gets stiff and clumpy, your set time goes from hours to days. And this is with the lid screwed on tight as possible and kept in the house. Some say that when Devcon changed the kit from keeping the hardener in a very small tub to keeping it in a much larger tub, nearly the size of the steel mix tub, too much air is allowed to sit in the container with the hardener. I had zero problems until 2014 or so, and my last few batches have come from different suppliers.
Moving on, between Marine Tex and JB, which is thicker? I've used JB before and really preferred the peanut butter thickness of Devcon, which is why I switched in the first place.
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MarineTex is thicker immediately after mixing. If you let JB Weld set a few minutes, it thickens up. MarineTex is more picky about mixing ratios. I prefer MarineTex.
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Is Acraglas Gel not up to the task?
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My favorite is Steel Bed from Brownells. My second favorite is JB. For the money it cannot be beat.
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Give Probed 2000 a whirl, i bet you don't use anything else. Nothing matches it in ease of use and setup time.
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Warming the hardener will take out the clumps but you need to allow it to cool before use..
I prefer gray MarineTex.
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Good info here. Thanks guys....
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I do around 30 bedding jobs per year with Acraglas Gel, no complaints.
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I bed around 5 of my own rifle actions a year with devcon steel putty. https://www.brownells.com/aspx/search/productdetail.aspx?sid=13899&pid=5808I pay for a new jar every year and write the date on it. They use Devcon at Boeing and are always careful about the date. I do dozens of bolt handle threaded inserts per year with Bob Smith Industries BSI-201 Clear Quik-Cure Epoxy. https://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dindustrial&field-keywords=Bob+Smith+Industries+BSI-201+Clear+Quik-Cure+Epoxy I store it upside down so it is ready to squirt out in one second. It is 5 minute epoxy that gets into the grain of the wood AND bonds to metal.
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Marine Tex and is hard to beat. I have a can that is over 20 years old along with the original activator jar, and it sill hardens fine. It has somelups in the can now so I only use it for bulk filling, up it still hardens fine. JB is good but I use it for small tings, like bedding rings.
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I liked Dexter Hysol Epoxi Patch (aluminum filled)..............when I had a good supply. Now buy the big tubes of JB at the auto store. Only done 3 rifles so far, happy with the results.
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Marine Tex...best in the biz.
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I use this so I don't have to worry about it going bad after opening.
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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That's not the aluminum filled. Back in the lab, we got it labelled "Dexter Hysol". Dunno if numbers or formula changed.........but not finding it so easy on the web (tube form). See something that might be like it in tubs. Loctite owns them now so maybe dropped it because they had their own version? IIRC there was even a stainless steel filled version. But in the lab we had clear, black and grey aluminum filled. Not the small tubes either. With all the ISO crap and audits...........anything past exp date was dumped (in appropriate barrels of course). Brand new never opened stuff...........so boss said log it in for disposal or take it home Once somebody thought it a good idea to cure a bucket of other epoxy before disposal (less spill risk LOL)...........by placing it in oven. Cured from the outside, inside went into burn mode. Evac the building. Yeah, that guy was an EE.
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I too am a firm believer in MarineTex. I will confess though to bedding a couple Mausers with West System thickened with colloidal silica which have held up fine. Sometimes I wonder if we don't over think this stuff sometimes.
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I too am a firm believer in MarineTex. I will confess though to bedding a couple Mausers with West System thickened with colloidal silica which have held up fine. Sometimes I wonder if we don't over think this stuff sometimes. I think there is a lot to confidence... and that is built by success with a particular epoxy.
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I've use it for years, always works.
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