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PLEASE do not take this as an arguement for the bob. First of all.
My son never liked shooting the 243. Always like the bob. That’s in otherwise identical platforms. I blame The high operating pressure, as well as the overall case design- the same as it eats barrels it makes the 243 more obnoxious for a young or inexperienced shooter. Now please try not to bog down there- I’m guessing as to why the 243 was that way for him, but I’m telling you what he told me about why he didn’t like it. Anyway the 20” 243 always had enough muzzle blast/flash etc to make it more dramatic than the bob. He just got a creed. Since it is LIGHT and short at 20” tube I’m going to load 120-123 grainers middle of the road instead of 140 and up initially. I don’t know if the slight difference in recoil between 120 and 140 will bother him but in a 6.5 lb 7mm08 I can tell a difference between 120s and 140s- so there is a difference. To this point it’s always been the blast and flash that bother him not recoil.
All that was just Long way to say 6.5mm is overall better for a kid than 6mm, noise/blast/flash/pressure probably matter more than recoil and a 6lb rifle kicks 33% harder than a 9pounder. So that’s a some things to consider. Obviously you know your kid
I’m thinking 120s or 123s- I’m ordering a handful to try- at 2800fps gets you out to 600 -650 with only about 5 mils depending on the bullet- with plenty of starch left. Probably not transonic til 800ish, maybe like 750 or so it’s pretty light. I’m hoping it’ll work well from about 50-250 more so however The 123 Scenars are a PEACH, if that's the 123 you are referring to. Although I wouldn't have any qualms on using the 123 AMaxes, etc.
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My kids and wife have shot a lot of 123s at 2850, via 20” .260. At our altitude they’ll run well out to 1000+.... but 600 and in is probably 90+% of our shooting. I shot 123s at 3000 (23” .260) down at the SRM on a windy day... and did fine.
I agree on the blast issue... there are some calibers that seem more obnoxious than others, especially in shorther (20”) barrels. The addition of a suppressor makes it so easy on the kids.
If we’re talking kids “hunting” calibers... then the Bob, and every other SA caliber are viable 300 yard options.
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Yeah- possibly it was- but that’s not the point- in the context of the discussion it was just junk that people have to filter through. A couple folks might get a laugh, a couple might get butthurt, And that’s all. It serves no purpose as far as advancing the discussion.
Sorry guys. I know I gotta laugh out of it...... Hell, I gave him a standing ovation.
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that’s like the 3rd standing ovation this thread. If we keep giving them out to people for just showing up doesnt that devalue the standing ovation? While i appreciate The gesture I’m going to take a knee, silently protesting the continued and ongoing misuse and abuse of the standing ovation.
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I got a standing ovation. I goddammed near stood up and ovulated, my ownself...... That's funny as hell, right there. P
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