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I've loaded some of my Hornady brass twelve times before primer pockets gave out. Mostly, I find that those who say the Hornady brass is junk are pushing it too hard. Same here.
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As I stated earlier, the loss of primer pockets on initial firing has been just as likely at moderate loads as at full tilt loads.
Even if the issue was that the brass was being overworked...... The fact that other makers seem to handle the same loads without issue make Hornady a non starter for me.
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None of what you report has been my experience with Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Have been using it since 2010 and haven't had any of those issues.
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I've had good luck with Hornady CM plus .270Win and .308Win.. Couldn't give me Federal stuff. I'd sooner load that eastern European stuff. But as pointed out and have experienced, once in awhile, CQ goes haywire.
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None of what you report has been my experience with Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass. Have been using it since 2010 and haven't had any of those issues. That's great.. And has zero bearing on my experiences....nor does it agree with a whole bunch of other folks having similar issues with Creedmoor brass, as well as the SAUM/G4S runs with eerily similar issues in certain batches.
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Which batches of 6.5 Gap 4S brass had loss of primer pockets on initial firings?
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That's great.
Have only used half a dozen manufacturing lots of Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass in half a dozen rifles, the lots produced from 2010 to 2017. Obviously that's a limited sample--but still fairly broad.
Maybe I've been lucky, but I spend considerable time on the Internet looking at various sites of interest, and haven't seen anything like that from people who weren't trying to turn the Creedmoor into a 6.5-06 or 6.5-284. Have also used plenty of Hornady brass for other cartridges in the past 2-3 years, including the .27o Winchester, .300 Weatherby and various other "high pressure" rounds with no problems. The 6.5 Creedmoor isn't a high-pressure round, since the SAAMI max average pressure is only 62,000 PSI, less than the .270 Winchester and .300 Weatherby. Also know a number of other people who've been loading the 6.5 Creedmoor for at least as long as I have, and they have yet to encounter what you describe.
I am NOT saying it can't happen, but am saying "soft" Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass seems to be pretty unusual, rather than an epidemic.
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Yall are likely right.
I'll still wait for the Alpha.
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I'm gonna try some Alpha soon, along with some other new brands of brass. The market seems to be flooded with companies trying to fill the voids left by more traditional brass manufacturers.
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I’ve had issues with the Hornady brass primer pockets on my 6.5 creed. I generally get between 4-6 reloads before the primer pocket gets too loose.
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Which batches of 6.5 Gap 4S brass had loss of primer pockets on initial firings? Marty as far as I know it was just the first batch!
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No issues here with Hornady CM brass...
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My primer pockets remained tight with the Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass, but one rifle kept leaving case head marks under top book loads. Did some brass measurements off of shoulder and my rifle FF brass is .01" larger than factory Hornady CM cases plus my FL die was setting was off setting shoulder back to far.
Still seeing the need to trim cases every 2 firings with Hornady brass in my other 6.5 CM rifles who,s fire formed brass are very close to factory Hornady new brass.
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