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Ok, with my CVA Buckhorn, I use 250 grain real bullet over 80 grains 777. The reason for the 250 reals is I have a good supply of soft lead on hand and cast my own. The bullet being much cheaper then sabot and bullet I can shoot a lot more. At 100yds can keep shots inside 3 in. sometimes a bit better. Since I have never messed with power belts or sabbots I'm curious, what kind of 100yd. groups can ya'll get with the bullet you use?

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My groups normally run between one inch and one and a half inches for saboted loads. This is with three inlines; a H&R Sidekick, a Traditions Pursuit XLT, and an Optima V2. Normal load for all three is 100 grains by volume/BH 209 and saboted 250 gr. Hornady SSTs, 260 Harvester Scorpion PT Gold, and 300 grain Hornady XTPs. If the group goes to 2 inches, it was my fault.

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I can do between 1 and 1 1/2 inch with 250 Barnes T-EZ or 250 grain Hornady SST's at 100 to 150 yds if I do my part. I did have trouble finding a load that would work well in the T/C and went through a number of different bullet types.



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With my 24" NEF Sidekick and no wind I have been able to keep PR's 200 grain Dead Center Lead bullet with sabot in a 3" bullseye @ 200 yds.
if I do my part. My sons 26" Sidekick does not do quite as well. Really like the accuracy of the PR lead bullets.

@ 100 yds groups can be in the 1 1/4" range with the 24".

This is using Blackhorn 209 at 120 grains by volume (84grs.by weight) Using a Federal 209A primer.

Had some problems with my BH 209 taking on moisture this year and it gave me some challenges till I was able to figure it out.

777 Always fouled so badly that I had to clean my barrel after 2 shots.Blackhorn 209 allowedme to keep shooting waaaaaaaay longer. Shot as many as 20 shots in a row with it.
Cleans up great with Ballistol.


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Here's mine....open barrel sights and PRB at 100 yards.

[Linked Image]100yd by Sharps Man, on Flickr

Two shots at top were when I was learning how much front sight not to hold.


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I have a traditions pursuit pro. 100 gr of 777 and hornady pistol bullet (245 gr) in hornady sabot I get approx 2 inch groups.

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Thanks for the reply's on my post. Might be worthwhile trying to very my charge a bit and see if I can do better. I also have a mold for the 320gr. Lee Real may try them also. A 3in. 100yd would be about a 6in. group at 200. A 200yd. shot in my deer woods would be rare, but certainly possible. I wouldn't consider it with current load, maybe 150yds. my max.

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My best in line was a TC Omega that shot 3/4 MOA. All the rest shot between 1” and 1&1/2” at 100 yards. My current gun is a Pac-Nor barreled SML. It shoots sub half MOA. I’d be happy with any factory ML that shoots an 1&1/2” at 100 yards.

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Originally Posted by Sharpsman
Here's mine....open barrel sights and PRB at 100 yards.

[Linked Image]100yd by Sharps Man, on Flickr

Two shots at top were when I was learning how much front sight not to hold.


Ok, well, that's not fair. Sharpsman has the eyes of 16 year old and, being retired, can ALL day. You are a crazy good shot with irons.

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My Knight Shoots 1 to 11/2” groups with 250grain Barnes expanders and 3 pellets (150grains). Devastating on game. I’ve shot a number of other combos and never found anything as reliable. The sabots take some effort to load but that seems to be the key for my rifle.

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I just switched over to the Hornady 250gr Monoflex bullet, this year in my T/C Encore ML. On my first outing I was shooting a 2" group, with no tweeking (100gr of FFg).
My eyes suck these days but, with some work I know I could probably get under 1.5" if I really put in the range time. But I never get shots over 100 yards where I hunt, so its not a priority at the moment.


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