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And his biological mother was, of course, a Jew, in the sense that the term meant at that time.

Today, Jew means someone 1) claiming a special privilege before God stemming from physical descent from Abraham, 2) who rejects Jesus, and 3) who considers the Talmud to be a collection of sacred texts. In other words, Jew today means something quite different than it commonly meant when Mary was born and raised as a Jew, and is more correctly termed Rabbinical and/or Talmudic Jew, which essentially amounts to what Christ would have referred to as a Pharisaical Jew, implying a profound and demonic unfaithfulness to divinely delivered Sacred Scripture, the Patriarchs, and the Prophets.

Matthew 1:1....This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah "THE SON OF DAVID, THE SON OF ABRAHAM:"

Matthew then goes in great detail to describe the lineage of Jesus all the way back to Abraham 42 generations. Its there for a reason.

All those folks doing all that begatting sure had a bunch of Jewish sounding names.

The Talmud was written over several centuries after the fall of Jerusalem. They had failed to keep the law because God didn't intend it to be be kept outside of Jesus. So, they sat down and tried to interpret it themselves without Jesus. That was impossible. Their interpretation got pretty far fetched, in some cases to the point of nonsense.

Sure, it is that, but it's also the later codification of the Pharisaical/Rabbinical oral traditions condemned by Jesus, which he referred to as the doctrines of men. What we know today as Judaism is essentially the offspring of precisely what Christ condemned in the Pharisees. The Pharisees basically took over charge of those Jews who rejected Christ, and manufactured a new religion after the fall of the Temple.

Stop trying to reason it out. Let the scriptures tell you the truth.
John 1:14King James Version (KJV)

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Romans 1:3King James Version (KJV)

3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;


Jesus is indeed Jewish,and also a flesh and blood man,and the Son of God, and the Word of God,and indeed God. The Father,Son and Holy Spirit,are one,yet are also separate,though "separate" is not the best word to describe an individual of the Trinity. When I say separate I simply mean Jesus wasn't talking to himself when he prayed,or throwing his voice when the Father spoke to him from Heaven,as I have heard some foolishly say.

Back to the subject though,Jesus is a Jew and Jesus is a man. God had to become man so that a man could pay the price for man's transgression against God. Such an awesome plan though that only God could conceive it.Just any man could not pay the redemption price for all mankind though, because any normal man would simply have paid for his own sins,and his life would have only been worth the price of his debt. God however,became a man,and as a man paid the price of redemption for all men. God's life being priceless beyond compare,and without a single sin debt of his own,was a price that would be worthy to pay for the sin of every human ever born. All we need do is to accept God's gift of payment for us.

The old term 'blood', referring to lineage, was adopted millenia before DNA was discovered. We now know that DNA determines heritage, not the blood. It's heritage that they were after, not the red stuff. Jesus had Mary's DNA which made him a Jew plus he had the adoption by Joseph which under the Law also made him a Jew.

Geez you people are blind.

We're not blind. You're disparately struggling to prove that Jesus isn't what the Bible says he is. He was Jewish both genetically and by adoption.

He was and is God in human flesh!!
Period
The Bible tells you that.

Yes it does. But, that human flesh happened to be Jewish. God chose the Jews as his own for reasons that I can't explain. He protected them, punished them, gave the law through them, and sent his son through them. Yet they rejected him and killed him
God will deal with the Jews in his own time and in his own way. For the rest of us, it's hands off. They're God's meat, not ours. In the end, they'll come to know the messiah and will send out 144,000 of the greatest missionaries the world has ever seen.

God dealt with the Jews in AD 70 with the final solution. . . Utter destruction and annihilation. The temple, the priesthood, the genealogy of the 12 tribes . . . everything associated with the Mosaic economy . . . never to rise again. The "Israel of God" now is the church . . . there is neither Jew nor Greek, bond nor free, male nor female, for we are all one in Christ Jesus.


Gal 3:26-29
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

So what ethnicity is God?

Maybe all,since God made man in his image and likeness and from that first man,all races have developed,but Jesus is Jewish,LOL

All should be concerned with one thing. Not any know when the harvest comes, as each should be prepared.

אלוהים מגיע כשאתה הכי פחות מצפה

So God can be killed, cool.

Only when he becomes a man for the purpose of dying. Ain't that neat?

You have much faith, more so than many.

Let me through a monkey wrench into this thread and introduce another passage that contains the answer to this riddle.


Mt 5:17-18

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

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1. Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets (Old Testament Prophesy)
2. But "Heaven and Earth" must pass before one jot or tittle of the law (Mosaic Law of the Jews) can pass away.
3. Is the Old Testament Law of Moses still in force and unfulfilled, or has "Heaven and Earth" passed and all Old Testament prophecy has been fulfilled? Can't have it both ways. It is an either or!

I think you are looking at it wrong because of language differences. The way I interpret the passage is that Jesus is saying that the law is as strong as the Heaven and earth,and that just as long as the heavens and earth stand the law will stand till all be fulfilled. It's the "till all be fulfilled" part that we need deal with.

Jesus fulfilled all the law. He fulfilled it by keeping it. Jesus was the only man ever without sin ,so the only man ever to keep all the law. That old covenant of law is done away with now and we are under the new covenant of grace. I can provide scriptures that speak of the law being done away with and replaced by grace if you aren't familiar with them.