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Originally Posted by pal
[quote=antelope_sniper...The current generation is actually the MOST SKEPTICAL in the history of the U.S. They are the least likely to accept what they are fed by institutions, schools, governments...


Please forgive me, but I think you are greatly out of touch. It is the snowflake generation.[/quote]

I work with millennials every day. Few are actual snowflakes. I finished a degree just 4 years ago, at a state brick and mortar University. Again, I encountered few actual snowflakes. Sure, there were a few crazy snowflakes, but they were the minority, not the majority.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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operation mockingbird.

Yeah, it was basically the CIA applying psy-op measures, originally developed to weaken our foreign enemies, to the people of the United States.

"Operation Mockingbird was established by Frank Wisner, director of the Office of Policy Coordination, a covert operations unit created by the United States National Security Council." - Wikipedia


It was designed to infiltrate and influence media, advertising, and hollywood.

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Operation Mockingbird was an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that began in the early 1950s and attempted to manipulate news media for propaganda purposes. It funded student and cultural organizations and magazines as front organizations.

According to writer Deborah Davis, Mockingbird recruited leading American journalists into a propaganda network and oversaw the operations of front groups. CIA support of front groups was exposed after a 1967 Ramparts magazine article reported that the National Student Association received funding from the CIA. In the 1970s, Congressional investigations and reports also revealed Agency connections with journalists and civic groups. None of these reports, however, mentions an Operation Mockingbird controlling or supporting these activities.

A Project Mockingbird is mentioned in the CIA Family Jewels report, compiled in the mid-1970s. According to the declassified version of the report released in 2007, Project Mockingbird involved wire-tapping of two American journalists for several months in the early 1960s.
- wikipedia

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
When there are so many Union Fudds in the world having kids, it's what happens.



Seriously?




Yes, seriously.

Read my quotes, that's a Union Fudd that posted them.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
I worry for my kids. When I grew up(born in 1975), "The Dukes of Hazard" was what we watched on Friday at 7:00, they showed the Disney movies(Davy Crockett, Old Yeller, ect) in grade school. Men/boys and women/girls were expected to act appropriately for their gender. You respected your parents/ teachers and had a solid sense of right and wrong.

I was raised not to judge people for being different, but at the same time we recognized that they were different.

I'm getting pretty tired of the "new normal" on society trying to tell us that it's ok to identify as anything, as long as it's not a straight Christian man. I mean when did it become morally wrong to have good Christian morals and teach them to your kids?

If you know the answer to any of this let me know. Me, I'm gonna get my boys(6 & 2) REAL coonskin caps and both of the Fess Parker Davy Crockett movies for Christmas and let people tell me what horrible sexist, bigoted values I'm passing on to my kids.

When Hitler came to power in Germany, many among the Jewish intelligentsia there made their escape to the US and began teaching in our universities, where (as they gradually rose to administrative control) they transformed them into indoctrination centers for Cultural Marxism. We are living the consequences
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While that may be an element in the equation, “the problem” was seeded long before WWll and any Jewish immigrants and is ongoing.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
We do without a lot of stuff, but we decided that raising our kids was the job that would pay the highest wage.


Amen.

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Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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operation mockingbird.

Yeah, it was basically the CIA applying psy-op measures, originally developed to weaken our foreign enemies, to the people of the United States.

"Operation Mockingbird was established by Frank Wisner, director of the Office of Policy Coordination, a covert operations unit created by the United States National Security Council." - Wikipedia


It was designed to infiltrate and influence media, advertising, and hollywood.

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Operation Mockingbird was an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that began in the early 1950s and attempted to manipulate news media for propaganda purposes. It funded student and cultural organizations and magazines as front organizations.

According to writer Deborah Davis, Mockingbird recruited leading American journalists into a propaganda network and oversaw the operations of front groups. CIA support of front groups was exposed after a 1967 Ramparts magazine article reported that the National Student Association received funding from the CIA. In the 1970s, Congressional investigations and reports also revealed Agency connections with journalists and civic groups. None of these reports, however, mentions an Operation Mockingbird controlling or supporting these activities.

A Project Mockingbird is mentioned in the CIA Family Jewels report, compiled in the mid-1970s. According to the declassified version of the report released in 2007, Project Mockingbird involved wire-tapping of two American journalists for several months in the early 1960s.
- wikipedia

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Seems many here are either ignorant or in denial of the culture war that is destroying our country?
They seem unable to connect the dots.


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PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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A bunch of old white men, raging about the destruction of America... what a laugh.

You have had it better then ANYBODY for the last 200 years!


If you are older then 40, YOU ruined America by letting it get out of control.


The US in the last 40 years:

Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex

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Rugged individualism for the individual.
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Originally Posted by Northman
A bunch of old white men, raging about the destruction of America... what a laugh.

You have had it better then ANYBODY for the last 200 years!


If you are older then 40, YOU ruined America by letting it get out of control.


Yep, and these men and their dads and grandfathers are the ones who made it that way. Surely though, the queeer way is better, right?


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Originally Posted by Northman
A bunch of old white men, raging about the destruction of America... what a laugh.

You have had it better then ANYBODY for the last 200 years!


So, what's your age and ethnicity? And why do you hang out on a website full of old white men?

I can remember when the mantra used to be, don't judge someone by the color of their skin. I guess it's still the mantra, it just doesn't apply to certain people, like white men.

Seems hypocritical when you stop to think about it. And yes, I realize you don't do that.



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Originally Posted by Northman
A bunch of old white men, raging about the destruction of America... what a laugh.

You have had it better then ANYBODY for the last 200 years!


If you are older then 40, YOU ruined America by letting it get out of control.


Democrat matriarchy. See what I mean, in addition to brainwashing POS like Walt here, they also made him illiterate.. It's THAN, stupid, not THEN...


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Smokepole:
I`m not older then 40 and white for several generations.
I´m here to learn about rifles and hunting.

It just irritates me about older people bitching and moaning about how everybody else has ruined America. When its their generation that made it how it is today.
A Republican Party bought by the fundamentalist Christians and big business..
A Democratic party constantly involved in identity politics instead of workers rights and middle class jobs.



So whorge1.. still biching and complaining I see. I see retirement has been good to you as well.

In 20 years, whites will be a minority and Spanish will be a official language. Moan about that please.. it not todays "millennial's" fault. Its yours!


The US in the last 40 years:

Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex

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Rugged individualism for the individual.
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The progressive downward slide began with FDR, and his croneys! The Democratic party has been pushing America down ever since! Being over 40 has nothing to do with this downward progression! Not living by the Constitution, and voting for crooks has brought us to this level! In fact it's the under 40 voters, that are the progressive problem! Mostly under 40 and city raised! IMO

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and the same message said in another way, using another set of words, it's all about the us turning more and more toward materialism as the standard to live by. workers including women as a part of the economy in terms of jobs and thusly out of the home. the children turned over to professional bureaucrats (teachers) to raise. the need for two jobs if we're to have a nice house, vehicles, vacations, and keeping the tax bill paid so that the police state doesn't take all of our stuff.

it is our own fault. who else could it be, but us? the social contract with the blacks gave the whites jobs in suburban america, and the blacks got free welfare as long as they agreed the black males would stay out of the house. lot's of them took the opportunity to go to prison (sarcasm here). anyways, lot's of kids growing up without a male figure. lot's of hi-jackings, house break-ins, etc now.

and besides, no need to stay on the farm and starve. move to the 'burbs and get a job. the farms can be bought up by doctors, lawyers, real estate investors, and turned into game preserves, environmental habitats, and weekend retreats from the jobs in the big cities.

it's all followed a process, and we're all willing victims. now, we want to change the social contract, do we?


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I'm not sure anything "happened" other than we failed to stagnate in a state the O.P. approves of. As long as the population continues to increase, as long as the technology "improves", etc change is absolutely unavoidable. Moreover, the rate of change increases so quickly we are never able to get out of a reactive mode and into any sort of planned, guided mode of change. Y' know what? If you have any kids, you've contributed, if you use technology (like being here on the internet) you've contributed whether that contribution was deliberate and willful or whether the contribution is rooted in ignorance of consequence of the choices you've made.

It is what it is. Whining doesn't fix it.

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Originally Posted by Heym06
The progressive downward slide began with FDR, and his croneys! The Democratic party has been pushing America down ever since! Being over 40 has nothing to do with this downward progression! Not living by the Constitution, and voting for crooks has brought us to this level! In fact it's the under 40 voters, that are the progressive problem! Mostly under 40 and city raised! IMO


It started earlier than that. Check into Woodrow Wilson and everybody's hero Teddy Roosevelt.

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Originally Posted by Heym06
The progressive downward slide began with FDR, and his croneys! The Democratic party has been pushing America down ever since! Being over 40 has nothing to do with this downward progression! Not living by the Constitution, and voting for crooks has brought us to this level! In fact it's the under 40 voters, that are the progressive problem! Mostly under 40 and city raised! IMO


It started earlier than that. Check into Woodrow Wilson and everybody's hero Teddy Roosevelt.


And even older than the both of them..

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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by Heym06
The progressive downward slide began with FDR, and his croneys! The Democratic party has been pushing America down ever since! Being over 40 has nothing to do with this downward progression! Not living by the Constitution, and voting for crooks has brought us to this level! In fact it's the under 40 voters, that are the progressive problem! Mostly under 40 and city raised! IMO


It started earlier than that. Check into Woodrow Wilson and everybody's hero Teddy Roosevelt.



Yep.

Woodrow was a huge turning point.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Northman
Smokepole:
I`m not older then 40 and white for several generations.
I´m here to learn about rifles and hunting.

It just irritates me about older people bitching and moaning about how everybody else has ruined America. When its their generation that made it how it is today.
A Republican Party bought by the fundamentalist Christians and big business..
A Democratic party constantly involved in identity politics instead of workers rights and middle class jobs.



So whorge1.. still biching and complaining I see. I see retirement has been good to you as well.

In 20 years, whites will be a minority and Spanish will be a official language. Moan about that please.. it not todays "millennial's" fault. Its yours!

To a large extent, he's right. We all saw what was going on and chose to bitch about it rather than getting involved and doing something. Now, it's likely too late to turn it around without violence. Not that there is anything wrong with violence at this point, but few would sacrifice their 401K's and lazy boy's for heavy lifting.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by wabigoon
What about private, church, or home schooling? Think that might help?


Not in the modern world.

Most parents today don't have the time education and skills to educate their kids with the skills they will need in the modern economy.

As for home schooling, are you prepared to teach your kids to code, advanced math etc?

In my daughters 8th grade math class the teacher told the kids NONE of their parents would be able to help them with their math homework.....at which point she pointed at my daughter and said "except yours". cool

Also kids need to be properly socialized. Separating them from the world does not prepare them for it. They need to experience it so they can understand the enemy and what they are up against. On a regular basis, my kids and I discuss their homework and what the teachers/text books are leaving out. I teach them skepticism, and standards of evidence so they can properly evaluate what's presented to them in a critical fashion.

However,

Since most of you old foggies are out of touch with what's happening in the real world, you are missing the bigger picture. The current generation is actually the MOST SKEPTICAL in the history of the U.S. They are the least likely to accept what they are fed by institutions, schools, governments, churches etc. at face value. They are very quick to call BS, and throw the red flag. Everyday that my kids go to school and listen to the liberal BS they become more libertarian, and it's not must my kids.....


Homeschooling does not (necessarily) lead to poor socialization. Separating them from the world? Do you mean separating them from the often vulgar, undisciplined classmates they'd have in a public school, and from the liberal claptrap of many of their teachers? That's exactly why we homeschooled our sons! It is my duty as a parent to protect my children from harm (physical, intellectual, and moral harm) and that's what we tried to do. My oldest son was homeschooled through high school, went to a small private liberal arts-type university as an undergraduate, did grad school in a large public university, and now is a professor in a large public university. His social skills are just fine, thank you very much. The other two were homeschooled for a few years until we allowed them to go to the Christian academy run by the church we had begun attending. They have done well in the real world too. They are all Christian conservatives that represent their generation quite well. In fact, they are far superior to what their old man was at the same age.

I realize that not all children who attend public schools are riff-raff. My sons met a lot of kids from public schools at church and through rec-league baseball and basketball and some of them were good kids with good parents. Some were not and our sons tried to be a good example for them and to reach out to them. You should realize as well that not all homeschooled kids are isolated from the real world, in fact very few are. Check this out: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/01/homeschooled-students-wel_n_1562425.html. A little casual research on your part would have dispelled this notion of homeschoolers being sub-par in any area you care to choose.


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