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Special Counsel Robert Mueller is accused of acting in complete disregard for the law and must be removed. And so, too, must his entire team.

There is devastating new evidence to suggest that Mueller and his staff of lawyers improperly, if not illegally, obtained tens of thousands of private documents belonging to President-elect Trump's Presidential Transition Team (PTT). The material includes emails, laptops and cell phones used by 13 PTT members.

Critically, a "significant volume of privileged material" was taken by Mueller, according to the Trump transition lawyer, and then used by the special counsel team in its investigation. Mueller's staff apparently admits this egregious violation, which the law strictly forbids.

Under the law, the only remedy is Mueller's dismissal from the case.

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That's OK. He get a pass since he served in the Marine Corps. I've been assured this is true right here on the 'fire. crazy


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They not only need fired, but they need prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Sessions needs to clean house, then resign himself.... (Just as he recused himself.)


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Originally Posted by achadwick
That's OK. He get a pass since he served in the Marine Corps. I've been assured this is true right here on the 'fire. crazy


ya know, I'd give a lot of leeway to someone who served in the Corps....

But this isn't one of them....

its more along the lines, he's a DemocRAT ( which I don't know how someone who served in the Marines, could ever
hate his country enough to become a democRAT).....

DemocRATS always think they are above the law, or abiding by it, just doesn't apply to them...

Kinda like the Blue's Brothers... they think they are on a Mission From God...

The entire team needs to be flushed, because they are all democRATS out to wreck Trump's Presidency...

Not find what might be wrong in an unbiased outcome... but have a focused outcome...


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
They not only need fired, but they need prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Sessions needs to clean house, then resign himself.... (Just as he recused himself.)


This 100%

But I will add since they knew what the law was they need to serve 10 time the penalty as a message to the ones that follow.

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Originally Posted by achadwick
That's OK. He get a pass since he served in the Marine Corps. I've been assured this is true right here on the 'fire. crazy


Not only was he Marine, he served in Vietnam. Just like John Kerry.


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Mueller is a RINO






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Originally Posted by larrylee
Mueller is a RINO



I don't think so.

He's simply a big government, establishment guy. All of those are commies. No matter what they call themselves.


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As a side note, Mark Shields was a Marine.


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What law did Mueller allegedly break?


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Special Counsel Robert Mueller is accused of acting in complete disregard for the law and must be removed. And so, too, must his entire team.

There is devastating new evidence to suggest that Mueller and his staff of lawyers improperly, if not illegally, obtained tens of thousands of private documents belonging to President-elect Trump's Presidential Transition Team (PTT). The material includes emails, laptops and cell phones used by 13 PTT members.

Critically, a "significant volume of privileged material" was taken by Mueller, according to the Trump transition lawyer, and then used by the special counsel team in its investigation. Mueller's staff apparently admits this egregious violation, which the law strictly forbids.

Under the law, the only remedy is Mueller's dismissal from the case.

MORE IN ARTICLE

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017...ed-his-probe-and-demand-his-removal.html


Excuse me. (raising hand) If Mueller asked for the documents and some idiot handed them over, what law did he violate?

No different than someone asking if you have any porno pics of your wife and you hand them over.

Perfectly legal. It might be private property, but if you hand it over it violates no law. Whoever handed them over may be may have some issues to face. Mueller's people may well have copied a bunch of documents in anticipation of them being requested returned. Whatever they saw cannot be unseen, and that may form the basis of a subpoena as evidence of a crime and they may then be forced to turn over the subpoenaed documents, and maybe a whole lot more as well. It's the same reason you NEVER allow a cop to search your vehicle/property/home without a warrant. If the cop says I think I smell marijuana mind if I search your vehicle? and you consent whatever he finds that may be evidence of a crime of any sort might be used against you even if the vehicle is absolutely clean of drugs

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Deep state is holding Mueller's strings.

As simple as that and noone is investigating the Majic Negro who is one of the bosses.


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What law did Mueller allegedly break?


The law sets up the transition team as a private corporation. It also requires the GSA to provide office space, equipment, and email. It requires the GSA to keep the email system secure. The emails do not belong to the GSA. They belong to the members of the transition team, and are not government work product.

So for openers, the GSA staff violated the law that created the transition team. Someone can, and probably will, put some big time hurt on whoever released the information.

Mueller violated the 4th Amendment, by asking for and receiving private communications without a warrant.

He also violated the law that says that if he discovers that he is in possession of private or privileged communication, he must stop reviewing the material, notify the owner, and return it. Instead, he has used that material as the basis for questions he is asking people in the course of his investigation. This is doubly troubling because some of the material is protected by attorney-client privilege. Add to that the fact that some of the contents have been leaked to the press, and you have a really serious legal situation.

I'm no attorney, but it appears to me that any potential prosecutions that result from his investigation are hopelessly compromised. They rely evidence that is now "the poison fruit of a poison tree."


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Does the counter argument have any validity?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...erly-obtaining-transition-emails-n830486

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"When we have obtained emails in the course of our ongoing criminal investigation, we have secured either the account owner’s consent or appropriate criminal process,” Carr told NBC News.

GSA deputy counsel Lenny Loewentritt disputed the claims in the letter, telling Buzzfeed News that the Trump transition team were told any material “would not be held back in any law enforcement” eventuality. “Therefore no expectation of privacy can be assumed,” he said.




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Trumps lawyer is claiming Mueller broke the law by obtaining documents from the GSA that were covered by attorney-client privilege. attorney-client privilege is waived when the documents are handed over to a 3rd party other than the client, such as giving the docs to the gsa. Sounds like trumps lawyer messed up and is now trying to cover his own butt


Edit to add: even if GSA agreed to hold the documents back from investigation the privilege would still have been waived when they were first handed over to GSA. Simone in trumps team got sloppy and is now crying foul when mueller exploited it

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Why would anyone talk to Mueller?

I don't think the GSA had custody of the documents any more than an ISP has custody of your emails. They can't just do with them as they wish.


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Originally Posted by achadwick
That's OK. He get a pass since he served in the Marine Corps. I've been assured this is true right here on the 'fire. crazy


ya know, I'd give a lot of leeway to someone who served in the Corps....

But this isn't one of them....

its more along the lines, he's a DemocRAT ( which I don't know how someone who served in the Marines, could ever
hate his country enough to become a democRAT).....

DemocRATS always think they are above the law, or abiding by it, just doesn't apply to them...

Kinda like the Blue's Brothers... they think they are on a Mission From God...

The entire team needs to be flushed, because they are all democRATS out to wreck Trump's Presidency...

Not find what might be wrong in an unbiased outcome... but have a focused outcome...


from what I read, he's a Republican. he was appointed by GW Bush to head the FBI.

His Marine Corps service looks to be legit. Enlisted, finished boot camp at Parris Island, went to OCS, then became a Marine Officer, So that makes him a mustang. Ranger School, Jump school , Rifle Platoon leader in Vietnam with 3rdMARDIV. In April 1969, he received an enemy gunshot wound in the thigh, recovered, and returned to lead his platoon until June 1969. decorations and awards include: the Bronze Star Medal with Combat "V", Purple Heart Medal, two Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medals with Combat "V", Combat Action Ribbon, National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal with three ​3⁄16" bronze stars, Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross, Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal, and Parachutist Badge.

I kind of think that DOES top 5 draft deferments. Your idea of service may differ than mine.


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I am reading a very different view of this stroy on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/c...;utm_source=reddit&utm_name=politics

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The "account owner" in this case is the General Services Administration, who are responsible for setting up the transition team with emails, offices, computers, etc...

They specifically told the transition team that the emails would be turned over to law enforcement if they were requested, and that there was no expectation of privacy on those accounts.

It's a non-story that is being blown out of proportion by a corrupt Republican party in order to undermine the investigation. This is what the GOP has become. Cowards complicit in treason that put party and donors before country.

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I agree whoever handed over the docs may have issues as I stated.

Someone has to assert that a privilege applies or it must be a plainly evident privilege may apply before Mueller or any attorney on his team is obligated to anything. Obviously it would be unlikely all of it would be so bound. Perhaps a case could be made for executive privilege in the case of the president elect but it would have to be argued that there is but one president at a time. As we saw in the case of Nixon and Reagan executive privilege does indeed have limitations.

Mueller as a special counsel acting as prosecutor has different obligations legally than say an attorney not appointed for investigation of an individual or specific group.

It's not a criminal violation for Mueller to ask for private communications. It is not a criminal violation to receive private communications. It may be that information contained in some such communications may be excluded at trial, but that does not necessarily make it fruit of the poisoned tree, nor does it necessarily make any product derived from it poisoned. It may well, but that's a whole lot of arguing before it gets sorted.

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Originally Posted by Sycamore

His Marine Corps service looks to be legit. Enlisted, finished boot camp at Parris Island, went to OCS, then became a Marine Officer, So that makes him a mustang. Ranger School, Jump school , Rifle Platoon leader in Vietnam with 3rdMARDIV. In April 1969, he received an enemy gunshot wound in the thigh, recovered, and returned to lead his platoon until June 1969. decorations and awards include: the Bronze Star Medal with Combat "V", Purple Heart Medal, two Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medals with Combat "V", Combat Action Ribbon, National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal with three ​3⁄16" bronze stars, Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross, Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal, and Parachutist Badge.

I kind of think that DOES top 5 draft deferments. Your idea of service may differ than mine.

Benedict Arnold was a hero too.


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