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Great that the economy in your area is booming.. shows you what 8 years of Obama did.



I have no problem saying that the last 4 years under Obama business has been good. It's only getting better.


The real question is how much better those years would of been under Romney, or a real Republican.


Don't know. I take a pile of business owners fishing. They all complain they can't hire enough people and they all say the economy is screaming. Been like that for four years. First thing they cut is fishing trips to Alaska. The great recession was brutal and we lost most of the construction crews that came up to fish. When I start commercial trolling more than guiding, it's time to get worried.


Reasonable economist estimates are he cost us 1.5% GDP growth per year.

Our GDP should be about 2 trillion a year more than it is currently.


7/30/15 Facts Are Facts=> Obama Owns Worst Economic Numbers in 80 Years, Since 1932
Wall Street Journal reported:
The economic expansion—already the worst on record since World War II—is weaker than previously thought, according to newly revised data.
From 2012 through 2014, the economy grew at an all-too-familiar rate of 2% annually, according to three years of revised figures the Commerce Department released Thursday. That’s a 0.3 percentage point downgrade from prior estimates.

The Daily Caller reported:
Over the first five years of Obama’s presidency, the U.S. economy grew more slowly than during any five-year period since just after the end of World War II, averaging less than 1.3 percent per year. If we leave out the sharp recession of 1945-46 following World War II, Obama looks even worse, ranking dead last among all presidents since 1932. No other president since the Great Depression has presided over such a steadily poor rate of economic growth during his first five years in office. This slow growth should not be a surprise in light of the policies this administration has pursued.


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Bow: U seem to have forgotten the economic disaster he inherited. And considering the Republicans did not exactly help in any way, he did what he could.


Seems to be a common theme among rightis.


The US in the last 40 years:

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Yeah. People were starving to death all over the country. Everybody was lined up for miles at govt food kitchens. It was worse than the Great Depression. Oh yeah. That was before the MSM invented Fake News, right?

Things were so bad in Ak you were swallowing Zeros BS.


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Originally Posted by Northman
Great that the economy in your area is booming.. shows you what 8 years of Obama did.


Yeah. He stopped terrorism and closed the borders and ended chain migration too, didnt he, or is that what hes fixing to do from behind the scenes?

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I heard of one CEO complaining about the tax cuts. This chap is the leader of a non profit organization. He claims the money will flow to the Compitition now. Boohoo.

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Last I heard a middle class income is defined as 50,000.00 - 150,000.00 per year but that was a couple three years ago.

I guess it depends on where one lives. A family could live like royalty here on 150k, and quite comfortably on 50k.

I live in a rural area of upstate NY. The median personal income for males in this county was 28,000 according to the latest statistics and ran 27 - 29,000 in three surrounding Counties. The median household income {more than one person working in most} in all of those counties is still under 50,000. Most folks ain't livin high on the hog around here.

How about moving to an area with more opportunity? Everytime I see some one bitching about the poor economy in the area they live I question their motivation and or intelligence. The fact is many people never earn a decent income because the lack the motivation to seek one out.

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Originally Posted by Northman
Bow: U seem to have forgotten the economic disaster he inherited. And considering the Republicans did not exactly help in any way, he did what he could.


Seems to be a common theme among rightis.


The economic disaster he inherited got worse.

Reagan inherited far worse from Carter and did far better.


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Originally Posted by Northman
Bow: U seem to have forgotten the economic disaster he inherited. And considering the Republicans did not exactly help in any way, he did what he could.


Seems to be a common theme among rightis.


When you come up for air, tell us how good the great mans asswhole smells.

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Originally Posted by Northman
Bow: U seem to have forgotten the economic disaster he inherited. And considering the Republicans did not exactly help in any way, he did what he could.


Seems to be a common theme among rightis.


Northman,

After the bursting of an asset bubble, economic recovery is the norm. What was different under Obama was how slooooooow that recovery was. We should of bounced back in less then half the time it took. Obama's policies prevented the creation of millions of jobs and cost our economy trillion of dollars.

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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Northman
Bow: U seem to have forgotten the economic disaster he inherited. And considering the Republicans did not exactly help in any way, he did what he could.


Seems to be a common theme among rightis.

You've mastered stupid.


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Originally Posted by viking
I heard of one CEO complaining about the tax cuts. This chap is the leader of a non profit organization. He claims the money will flow to the Compitition now. Boohoo.

trust me, the employees of a non-profit org., make a profit

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Great that the economy in your area is booming.. shows you what 8 years of Obama did.


Yeah. He stopped terrorism and closed the borders and ended chain migration too, didnt he, or is that what hes fixing to do from behind the scenes?


also closed down the disgraceful GTMO.... oh woops, still working on that, too.

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Originally Posted by Northman
Bow: U seem to have forgotten the economic disaster he inherited. And considering the Republicans did not exactly help in any way, he did what he could.


Seems to be a common theme among rightis.


Bush had a fair to great seven of eight years, and he did it with interest rates rising from about 2% to 7.75% short term interest rates. The Dow did very good in the Bush years except his last year. Perhaps the economy could not withstand the high interest rates or $ 4.75 diesel fuel cost. Now, what was short term rates with Obama? It was manipulated by him to keep rates at a whopping 0% for the first seven yrs and a whole .25% the last year he was in office. When it went to .25% interest rates the Dow plunged . That was very cowardly of Obama and company to keep rates at 0% for seven yrs just to make the stock market look better than it really was . Now , Yellen has no problem raising rates again now that we have a republican majority. Liberals are azzholles in the highest degree, and if we go into a downturn the coward liberal will blame Trump. Asssholes for sure. What would the Dow be if O would have raised rates to what it should have been ? The Dow would have never went to 18K and everyone knows this, even the liberals but they dont have the balls to say the truth. The last yr of Obama was a good year for me. The first 3 were really bad , Bush 's first 4 were ok, the last four yrs were very good and I am just making this year what I was making in 2008.


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Bow: U seem to have forgotten the economic disaster he inherited. And considering the Republicans did not exactly help in any way, he did what he could.


Seems to be a common theme among rightis.

You've mastered stupid.

He's the king as far as I can tell.

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What i don't understand is why folks think a tax cut costs money.

It brings more money into the real economy but they do need to cap spending.

That is what undid the Regan tax cuts.
They thought they had all of this new money coming in so instead of cutting the dept they raised spending.

Both sides tried to be the sugar daddy of the country.

This might not be perfect but it needs to start somewhere.

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If all goes well, those of us who make less than a couple hundred grand a year will be able to order pizza one more time per month.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
If all goes well, those of us who make less than a couple hundred grand a year will be able to order pizza one more time per month.


Of course they are borrowing the money for that pizza from their kids but what the hell, party on!

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