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i understand things aren't perfect in this world,.]
we've worked to present the world to the god that will save us, and vice versa.
it would be good to see a god that is on our side, finally.'
humans, eating the urth, and humans loving god.
let's talk about the system, ok?
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God isn't a jennie, that He would grant men all the selfish things that mortal men want !
He created the world, and He has a plan for it and it's inhabitants.
He isn't perplexed.
if a man speaks, and there isn't a woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?
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do you want fries with that burger?
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
Here be dragons ...
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With all due respect Gus, you are suppose to stand under the mistletoe, not smoke it. And I mean that in a nice way.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o
"May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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God assigned the job to us.
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IMHO, it's not up to God to fix the problems of the earth. That is up to us. Mankind started in a utopian environment. God knew Adam would disobey and that man would fall. People who expect the re-establishment of the Garden of Eden are wasting their time. This mortal probation is the time for us to make choices and suffer the consequences, both good and bad. God is all powerful, but he will never take away our agency. Thus, individuals can make bad decisions that ripple negative effects to others. IMHO this will be sorted out at some point in the future.
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Same reason Santa Claus and the Tooth fairy aren't solving the world's problems
You want to effect change in the world, actions speak louder than words and anything's better than sitting around waiting for someone/something else to do it.
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To quote John Constantine, "God's just a kid with an ant farm".
Just down the road from The City of Lost Souls in the Land of the Blind.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla
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He could do another great flood.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Who messed it up, Gus, Him or us.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Of the 14 different gods I pray to, none has given me a good answer yet.
The US in the last 40 years:
Socialism for big corporations and military industrial complex
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Rugged individualism for the individual.
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Who messed it up, Gus, Him or us. He made US. Perhaps He just overestimated His abilities.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Gus,
You are presuming a god exists.
Pretty hard for things to get fixed by a non-existent entity.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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I was raised in church but I never liked going. Nowadays I tell people who ask why we don't attend church, that I just don't think "God" is a very good parent. Pretty negligent, if you ask me. Plus, I wish he'd make it clear which church I'm supposed to be going to, if he wants me to go. Look at all the churches and religions and denominations out there - they all claim to be on the right team, and everybody else is unfortunately going to hell. I guess somebody is right and a whole, whole bunch of others are dead wrong. But they go to church just as hard as everybody else. I'd like to be on the winning team but how is a regular guy like me supposed to be able to tell the difference? Everybody has their particular verse of the bible staked out, or a particular edition of the bible, that they hang their whole theory on - and everyone else's interpretation is wrong. And, I have never been in a church that didn't slide their hand into my pocket. With all of the goofy things people do in the name of religion they can't all be right. I just can't risk choosing the wrong team, so I guess I'm sort of a free agent.
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I had a friend once who was pretty tough. He got sick once but didnt know what Dr to go to, so he didnt. Im glad he used to go to church.
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
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Gus,
You are presuming a god exists.
Pretty hard for things to get fixed by a non-existent entity. ^^^^^^^ This. When people start talking about god, I will often ask, "Which one? Man has invented so many of them."
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With all due respect Gus, you are suppose to stand under the mistletoe, not smoke it. And I mean that in a nice way. 😃😃😃
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To quote John Constantine, "God's just a kid with an ant farm".
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Free will is a curse and a gift. He could have made us all to just be puppets- but he did not; and IMO that is a good thing. Would be very boring if he would have.
My belief is that he reigns, ..... but the world has been given over to some truly evil things and the world is somewhat in charge. But... the day of reckoning will come and the keys to the kingdom will be taken back and it will be a new day then. May seem like a fairy tale to some- but I like the ending of that fairy tale. In the mean time- carry on.
I would rather live my life here and follow a God that I trust, and try to live my life according to his rules- that are best for all of us. Better to be wrong about that still- rather than live my life another way and be wrong. Obeying him and living that way has not hurt me one bit, for his promises have blessed me more than I deserved.
As to how the other 6.99999 billion people live- I have no control over that.
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