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My .450 Howell on a CZ 550 action. The little case is a 7x57. The load is 74.0 grains Benchmark,450 grain Barnes TSX and a CCI 250 Mag primer.
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A picture of the rifle,going to put a Leopold 1.5x5 on it in the future.
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The above load shot at 50 yards with iron sights. The problem is that the group is 5-6" to the left of where I am aiming.
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And finally,the Barnes 450 grain bullet next to a .222 Remington case.
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You're gonna love that round! I've had the pleasure of shooting Ken Howell's custom Mauser 450 Howell.

Power level seems to be halfway between a .458WM and a .458 Lott.

You ought to see what it does when you hit a 100lb whitetail doe just behind the shoulder @ 75 yards! She moved after the shot...straight up in the air, turned over, and hit the ground on her back. I thought Miles was going to have a stroke he was laughing so hard... laugh

Might give your .460Wby a run for it's money as a jackrabbit gun. grin

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Not as nice as your new 7x57! grin


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Well thats nice, Ken!!! Good on you!


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Definitely a big bore!

Wonder what ever happened to the 416 Howell reamer I got from Ken and traded off?

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Originally Posted by mudhen
Not as nice as your new 7x57! grin

Yeah,went and put some more money down on it Thursday,and it sure is a sweetheart! smile


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Cool rifle!!!


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That'll work Elk, is that case made from the 404 Jeffery?


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Most of the Howell calibers were made on 30-06 cases....not sure on this one.

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The 416 and 450 Howell were based on the 404 shortened. As I recall the 416 was shortened to 2.50" and the 450 to 2.55". There might have also been a 375, but it's been a long time since I read Ken's original article. I think there is a scanned version of the article floating around the internet.

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Originally Posted by Biebs
Most of the Howell calibers were made on 30-06 cases....not sure on this one.


Yes, the .450 Howell is based on a necked down and shortened .404 Jeffrey case, as were the original .375 Howell and the .416 Howell.

Ken also developed a .375 Number 2 Howell based on the 8x68mm S Magnum brass.

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Yes Gunner,it is made from .404 Jeffery brass.

Ed,you mean necked up (to .458) and shortened .404 Jeffery case,not necked down. A .458" is bigger than the .423" that what the .404 Jeffery bore diameter is.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Yes Gunner,it is made from .404 Jeffery brass.

Ed,you mean necked up (to .458) and shortened .404 Jeffery case,not necked down. A .458" is bigger than the .423" that what the .404 Jeffery bore diameter is.


Listen to what I mean, not what I said, dammit! grin blush

Yes...necked up to 0.458" and shortened. I was thinking about the .375 and .416 versions when I typed that... Fingers went faster than my brain, which isn't too hard some days.

Did it on another thread a couple of weeks ago. My keyboard allowed me to seat CCI LR primers in .223 brass... One keystroke and it was done! frown blush

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10-4, Thanks Biebs, Ed and Elk.


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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
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Did it on another thread a couple of weeks ago. My keyboard allowed me to seat CCI LR primers in .223 brass... One keystroke and it was done! frown blush

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Originally Posted by 458 Lott
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
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Did it on another thread a couple of weeks ago. My keyboard allowed me to seat CCI LR primers in .223 brass... One keystroke and it was done! frown blush

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Yup,and with Ed it is quite possible a sledge hammer was used. grin


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I traded Ken's reamer to John Ricks in ~2001. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/54263/A_Tribute_to_Ken_the_416_Howel

John disappeared off the net in ~2004 and I haven't head from him.

I didn't see any in the link to AR that indicates that is Ken's reamer that I traded to John.

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4 shots yesterday morning with iron sights at 50 yards.
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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864

You ought to see what it does when you hit a 100lb whitetail doe just behind the shoulder @ 75 yards!

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Seriously? How much meat were you able to put in the freezer? 50-60 pounds?

Here, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RazGeSe0VOc


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