Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Rimfires New Ruger Precision Rimfire

Not my cup of tea, but always glad to see new product launches.

https://ruger.com/products/precisionRimfire/models.html

It wasn't beaten with the ugly stick, it IS the ugly stick!

Not to my tastes, but if it works, why not? Still better looking than that Mossberg leveraction thing. Sorta, kinda, anyway. I think I'll pass on it.

There's nothing "precision" about that rifle. Ugly does not = precision.

How in the F#ck do you know that Einstein?

You haven't shot one.


Not every rifle can be as overrated and over priced as a Cooper.

How do I know that? Maybe 15 years of competing in rimfire benchrest matches, being in the IR50/50 Hall of Fame and working with a top rimfire gunsmith testing the precision rifles that he built that went on to win National Championships and breaking World Records taught me something about it.

A true precision .22 will have a very light match trigger (Jewell, Flavio Fare, Bix'n Andy, Anschutz), match grade, hand taper-lapped barrel (Shilen, Mueller, Benchmark, Lilja etc) a true match chamber and most will have a barrel tuner like a Harrell's tuner, a trued action with great and consistent ignition (Anschutz, Turbo, Stiller 2500X, 10x etc). The Cooper 57M action could be improved by adding some camming ability to better and more consistently allow the bullet to engrave the rifling. But that is nit picking.

The Ruger might be a fun and decent rifle but precision, I don't think so. Notice, no where is there an expected accuracy statement. As for the Coopers, mine is almost as accurate as a my benchrest rifles and the quality is superb. Mine is an early 57M and it's a real shooter. Neither over-rated nor over-priced (at least not when I bought mine, they have gone up quite a bit).

Tell me there cupcake, what do you know about precision rimfire rifles?

If you actually are in ANY Benchrest hall of fame- (which is doubtful) they seriously need to raise their standards.

Not mention that you ever having shot benchrest has absolutely NO BEARING on the true capabilites of a rifle that you have never even shot.

Ruger designed the gun to be a trainer for their centerfire precision rifle which is a damned accurate rifle. Actually as accurate as anything Cooper has ever built.

Try checking your elitist stupidity at the door .

HUh. I'd be surprised and disappointed if this factory ruger wasnt of equal quality and accuracy as a custom match 22. Seems a valid comparison.

Nothing elitist about having actually achieved something and having acquired knowledge on a subject by actually having done something. I know what goes into making a real precision rimfire and the specs on that Ruger aren't it. Not even close. What is your wager on my being in the IR50/50 (rimfire benchrest organization) Hall of Fame? I may be a "Yankee NY Liberal Piece of Sheit" but I'm no liar. I also won the 2015 IR50/50 Unlimited National Championship and represented the US in 2011 in the rimfire benchrest world championships, which I qualified for by my second place finish in the IR50/50 3 Gun Nationals in 2010.

I have no first hand knowledge about the Cooper centerfire rifles but I'm more than confident that my Cooper rimfire would easily outshoot that Ruger. Why do I say that? The Cooper's action, barrel, and true match chamber will be better than the Ruger and all that stuff matters and I have beaten out people shooting Anschutz BR50, Anschutz 1710s and even some custom rifles (tho it will not outshoot my custom rifles) with my Cooper. If that Ruger is all that, it will find it's way to benchrest matches, like the Cooper TRP3 rifle has.

BTW, I wouldn't classify my Cooper as a precision rimfire either. Why? It does not have a match grade trigger. The standard Cooper trigger is good but it is not a 2 oz. Jewell like my real precision rimfire rifles have.

ps Just curious: What level of accuracy would you consider "precision" for a rimfire rifle? @50 yards: 1", .5", .250" .125"?

You could be the greatest benchrest shooter that has ever lived and you still don't know JACK about the new Ruger RPR because you have never fired one.

Which is my point.

I never drove a Yugo either but I know it's not as fast as a Porsche 911. It has to do with the specs and quality of components. That is my point.

And - - the greatest rimfire benchrest shooter ever was Harry Deneen. I was good enough to play with and occasionally beat some of the big boys, but far from the greatest.

jk16,
Glad you like the Ruger. Not sure you are playing in the same pond...

The Ruger is not intended to be a BR gun. Neither is a modern tactical "Precision" style rifle. And FWIW, benchrest guns are pretty useless on a Precision rifle course as well.

I don't know if I "like" the Ruger as I have not shot one either. But unlike narrow some minded folks here, I am.not going to damn it without testing one.

It has an AR-15 style barrel nut system so headspace can be set perfectly. The base gun only
costs $520 retail. Even with a higher grade custom replacement barrel (which may not even be needed for its intended use) street cost will wind up being about $750-$80 all up.

I don't see any downside to this rifle for a PRC style trainer.

Life is too short...........

JK16, you read more into my initial post than I intended. I did not say it was useless nor did I imply it wouldn't make a cheaper "trainer" for someone with a centerfire Ruger PRC. My statement was my initial take on that rifle and after our little exchange, nothing has changed on that. The word "precision" may mean different things to different people, but I think it should mean something other than that it is slightly more accurate than a cheap plinker or being a cheap plinker with an ugly stock. Keeping the car analogy going, it's like someone putting a sporty-looking kit body over a VW beetle and calling it a sports car. It could still be fun to drive and you would look cool in it, but, it would not be a high-performance sports car.

If one wants a similar styled rifle that actually has the chance to be a good shooter, the Vudoo Gun Works V22 actually has a chance to be a precision rifle. (I say that not having shot that one either but based on it's specs and what I've read). If someone wants a guaranteed precision rimfire rifle, I would suggest having a custom rimfire built by a top rimfire gunsmith on a Stiller 2500X action, Jewell or Bix'n Andy trigger, Shilen ratchet barrel with a Harrell tuner (with the actual barrel length determined by the gunsmith who will slug the barrel and cut and crown it at a tight spot in the bore) . You can put that into any style tacticool stock you want. Anyone doing that will have a truly precision rimfire capable of benchrest accuracy, even tho the stock would not be best for that discipline. The cost of just the components in such a precision rifle would be $2K not counting the gunsmith's labor or scope. Shooting such a precision rifle would be as exhilarating to a rifleman as getting behind the wheel of a Bugatti Veyron would be to a car enthusiast. The thing is, while the average guy can't afford a Veyron, most of us can come up with $3K for just such a rifle.

Yuck. I can't imagine it carries well.

I don't understand folks that can't grasp that this is a rifle with an MSRP of $500, is set up for Precision Rifle matches (not Benchrest), and then try to compare it against BR Rifles like the TRP (MSRP $2,165), or Stiller or 40x action rifles costing thousands more. It's not the same game, not the same price, and not the same requirements needed to compete in each.

Ya hung up about the word "Precision"? Its the model name that corresponds with the type of matches it's expected to participate in. Get over it. It's not going to win Benchrest matches against 10lb guns with 3 oz. triggers, 3" forends, and shot from mechanical rifle rests that cost more than this rifle.

As to being "Ugly" that is really a subjective issue. For a rifle at this pricepoint, I think the features are more important than "looks"...easily adjustable LOP, adjustable comb, adjustable pad for shooters 10 yr old and up... Multiple points to mount slings or bi-pods, a 30 MOA picatinny rail as standard, adustable trigger to 2.5lbs (No it's not a Jewell or A&B, but it's not a benchrest rifle), and a barrel already threaded for a suppressor that swaps out easily with a headspace gauge and AR wrench. 10rd Magazines cost less than $14, and you can get 15rd and 25rd mags if you want. That's a lot to ask for in a FACTORY, OFF THE SHELF, rifle.

I recognize the features are useful. I'm sure it's efficient. It is a tool. Not my cup of tea, but interesting. Life would be boring if we all did the same thing.

Cool. I've never held one, shot or even seen a pic 'til I clicked on the link by the OP. But, for $500 bucks it seems like a heckuva a rifle.

Paul;
Good morning to you sir and thanks for the thread, I'd heard about these but hadn't laid eyes on any photos yet.

A couple of years back I was thinning the safe contents out and told my eldest daughter that with the proceeds it was time I bought her a decent bolt .22 to go along with her 10/22. We went up the valley to a couple gun shops where she handled a CZ, Savage and a couple Ruger Americans - ending up picking the Compact model as she liked how it fit.

We picked up some sort of Tasco Varmint Rimfire scope at the local gun show after that and to make a long story short - the little thing does shoot. It's a tiny bit more ammo sensitive than my 1958 Brno Model 5, but when fed almost anything from CCI the little Ruger American will run neck and neck with the old Brno and that's pretty good.

This new Ruger appears to be the same action as the American Rimfire and to me it's sorta like a moose calf - so ugly it's kinda cute.

While my tastes typically run to nicer wood on a rimfire, I'm going to have to seek one of these out to handle it. Everybody should have multiple .22 rifles, right?

Thanks again and Happy New Year to you all.

Dwayne

Okay, don't y'all jump on me. I don't keep up with all the cutting edge trends in the firearms world so this is an honest question - what is this thing used for?

I get centerfire precision rifles, they're basically modernized "chassified" versions of the older wood stocked position rifles that have been around for decades with combs adjustable for height and buttplates adjustable for cant and LOP. These centerfire precision rifles are cambered for calibers useful for very long range shooting - high BC bullets and moderate to low recoil.

But a .22 LR? There used to be lots and lots of position rifles in .22 but they were used for bullseye matches at close to moderate range where one rifle could be used for offhand, kneeling, sitting and prone. I'm not seeing a lot of those matches today, and when someone wants to shoot at long range they do it off of a bench or prone with a bipod.

Now I've shot 200 yard .22 silhouette but did very well with a box stock Ruger 10/22 16" tactical and an SWFA scope, didn't need anything too fancy for that.

So, are people now shooting .22's out to 400-600 yards?

I'm not criticizing or sneering at the rifle and I'm always glad to see more choices, but I am curious just exactly what one would use this for?