24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,889
mistem Offline OP
Campfire Tracker
OP Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,889
Bought a few pounds to try.... loading data is somewhat limited. Anyone running this in a 22-250,243,6mm creedmoor, 260 rem, 6.5 creedmoor, 708, 308??


Ask for forgiveness......instead of permission
HR IC

Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 350
N
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
N
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 350
I had great luck with it in tikka short mag rifles. I believe barnes still list it as most accurate powder for a creedmoor and 260 load. I know one reloader using the gmx and superformance in a 260 with great accuracy

Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,237
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,237
The accuracy I've gotten with it leaves me totally unimpressed.


molɔ̀ːn labé skýla
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,313
D
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,313
30-06 with 150 grain will exceed 3000 FPS and is accurate in my rifle.

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 59,898
M
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 59,898
Getting 3400 fps with .5-.6 inch groups with 70-grain GMX in a 1-8 twist .22-250. Tried several other powders listed as getting top velocities and none came very close.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
IC B2

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,340
K
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,340
Muledeer... if you ever catch one of those GMX be sure to post it. If I remember right somebody tested a 22 caliber years ago on some cow bones and Flesh and it did amazingly amazingly well... as in pretty impressive frontal diameter and really deep penetration.

Last edited by kraky111; 12/31/17.
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 11,369
L
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
L
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 11,369
Specs look really good for 30-30 with 160 FTX's

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,340
K
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,340
Not right for 3030.... you want leverevolution powder for that!

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 31
I
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
I
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 31
I will relate a conversation I had online with a noobie
Because Hornady markets Superformance ammo his logic was that Hornady loaded all of its Superformance ammo with the one Hodgdon Superformance canister powder.

Since he did not find any data for his .444 he proceeded without any data.
He owned a chronograph but he did not understand why he only got 1400 fps.
He wanted better data to match the high velocity of the Hornady ammo.
I investigated and found that Hodgdon supplies 14 non-canister powders to Hornady to load Superformance ammo.
Some people's logic is amazing.

Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,313
D
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
D
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,313
I as well contacted a Hodgdons tech named Mike and he told me there are over 40 blends of Superformance, but only one for us reloaders.

IC B3

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,583
2
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
2
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,583
I get over 3600 with 70 grain bergers in a 22-250 improved. Accuracy is very good. Tested many other powders and none came remotely close.

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 51
M
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
M
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 51
30" bbl Browning 1885 25-06, 4000 fps w/80 Barnes.

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,073
T
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
T
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,073
Absolutely nothin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UHN-say it again!

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,125
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 21,125
I run it in my 6 AI, works good.


Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.

Ain’t easy havin pals.
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,792
G
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
G
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,792

Works good in my 270 Winchester with 140gr Accubonds.

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,831
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,831
Originally Posted by Dustylongshot
I as well contacted a Hodgdons tech named Mike and he told me there are over 40 blends of Superformance, but only one for us reloaders.


Do you know which of the 40 is being sold to reloaders? I've read here that each blend is cartridge and load specific.



Quando omni flunkus moritati
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,792
G
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
G
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,792

I heard it was the blend for 30/06. Heard it on the web so must be true.

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,340
K
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
K
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,340
My chrono says the 3006 data is fibbing...lol.... but it says that about a lot of things!
I thought I had a pretty accurate load (not near claimed velocity) but i would get unexplained Flyers.... it's also pretty dirty in the 30 odd 6 leaving a lot of soot around the neck.... and a pretty black Barrel clean up.

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 11,369
L
Campfire Outfitter
Online Content
Campfire Outfitter
L
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 11,369
Originally Posted by kraky111
Not right for 3030.... you want leverevolution powder for that!

Yes you are correct , I got confused 🤕 leverevolution is was I was thinking of .

Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,177
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,177
Haven't chrono'ed it yet (battery was dead) but 71.2g got me sub 0.5" groups in my .300 WSM.


Some people are educated beyond their intelligence.
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,063
H
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
H
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,063
Originally Posted by ireload2
I will relate a conversation I had online with a noobie
Because Hornady markets Superformance ammo his logic was that Hornady loaded all of its Superformance ammo with the one Hodgdon Superformance canister powder.

Since he did not find any data for his .444 he proceeded without any data.
He owned a chronograph but he did not understand why he only got 1400 fps.
He wanted better data to match the high velocity of the Hornady ammo.
I investigated and found that Hodgdon supplies 14 non-canister powders to Hornady to load Superformance ammo.
Some people's logic is amazing.


The Superformance powder actually used in a few but not all Superformance cartridges. Which I believe you have addressed. Its been my experience of the few box of Hornady that I've shot, those loads have been pretty hot but still within spec. I haven't gotten great accuracy from those boxes but then again my base line are my reloads which is a little unfair to the box of ammo that is expected to work in all chambers. Finally, performance listed on the side of a box of ammo is rarely what going to be achievable not just in with reloads but from the factory ammo as well. It would be best to concentrate on speed through a chronograph as it relates to charges. For example, I am looking at RL16 to push 165 grain Nosler Accubond. The listed max is around 57.3 grains of powder. I will reduce my load my 10% and work up to that point. If the chronograph shows too much speed, I will back off and stop there. Looking back at all the data, I will pick my most accurate load and that will be the speed for that rifle for that load. Here is the kicker, a year from now I'll purchase another pound of RL16 and load it the exact same way. There is a good change the chronograph may not have the same ES or SD. Why? Because now I'm dealing with a different lot of powder, primers, bullets, and brass (very good possibly a different manufacture). Bottom line I don't chase velocity, I strictly use it as a safety parameter. I chance accuracy.

Last edited by HaYen; 01/02/18. Reason: I meant SD Standard Deviation not MV Mean Velocity

Remember, not everyone has a happy ending, so be happy when you can
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,792
G
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
G
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,792

Used 57gr of RL16 and got 2987fps out of a Weatherby Mark 5 30/06. Used R/P cases and CCI250 primers.
3.260OAL. 24" barrel. 7 shot average.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
YB23

Who's Online Now
443 members (160user, 300jimmy, 10ring1, 1lesfox, 257 mag, 1lessdog, 48 invisible), 2,167 guests, and 932 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,187,595
Posts18,398,070
Members73,815
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 







Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.117s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.9003 MB (Peak: 1.0462 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-03-28 11:47:22 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS