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Anyone have experience with these? Would like to try a fixed 6X rifle scope and Leupolds are getting pretty expensive. Wondering if this would be a worthy option. Thanks.


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Yes, it's a good option. A bit tight on eye relief at times. A bit short on tube-mounting-length, which can make it a tight to impossible fit on some long actions.

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I have a bunch of the Weaver classic K and V series scopes. I also have a bunch of Leupold VX-I's and II's. Aside from the shorter eye relief that DakotaDeer mentions, I consider the Weaver's better than the Leupold's. Optically they are pretty close to dead even but the Weaver's adjustments are clearly better.

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The 6x38 works very well on a short action Rem 700. To use it on a Win M70 FWT short action, I had to use a reverse front Leupold base. It's all because of the long taper of the front tube and the short eye relief. Optically, they are just a shade below the Leupold FXII 6x36, but I like the Weaver duplex better than the Leupold wide duplex.

I no longer have any 6x38s but do have several 4x38s. They have a little more eye relief plus they work really well on a .22 rifle. Parallax is set at 100 vs 150 for the Leupold.

Here's the rub: try selling a Weaver vs a Leupold. I like the Leupold best. It is a slim, and trim rig. Much smaller than the Weaver. Resale is better too.

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Whichever way you go, you will like your straight 6X. On a pain old "huntin' rifle", it's all you need. Not to offend anyone, but if you think you need a 6 - 24X with a BDC reticle and side focus to kill a whitetail at 300 yards, what you really need is to learn to shoot.

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Yes, it's a good option. A bit tight on eye relief at times. A bit short on tube-mounting-length, which can make it a tight to impossible fit on some long actions.
This mirrors my limited experience with the K6. I mounted one a 243 RAR for the boys. I was able to get it set properly for them, but there's not a lot of wiggle room left. It's a bit less forgiving to get behind than some other scopes I've used, but still easy enough. My 7yo was able to find this yearling doe at 151yds... laugh
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DakotaDeer pretty much summed it up. I bought two, but was only able to use one because of the limitations he mentioned. I suspect that long objective appeared fairly recently. Anyway, I ended up putting mine on a .22 that needed an upgrade and like it there.


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I think very highly of the K4 and the K6.

I personally like the 4 better and I am also fond of the old K3 and K2.5
I wish Weaver would return to making such scopes in 2X and 3X also.

But my own rifles now have quite a few k4s on them, and my 404 Jeffery has a K2.5

If I could have them make a "dream scope" for me it would be a 30MM tube with a 40MM objective. 4X magnafaction. Spring tempered stainless tube and a reticle that had 4 MOA dots or dashes, going to the bottom of the scope's field at 6:00, so I could use it to figure my own drops with the loads I use. Fast and easy to dope your drops that way, and super easy to learn and remember.

If Weaver made such a scope I'd buy 6-8 of them right off. Maybe more. I's take off some of the scopes I have now and sell them to the folks that think gadgets are cool, and replace them with the scope I just described.
This would be a HUNTERS scope. No crap hung all over inside, no variable power settings, no adjustable parallax ring, no stupid target turrets. Just a sight that never fails and is rugged as a splitting maul.

Such a sight is good for shotguns with slugs, 30-30s, 270s, 300 ultra mags, 408 ChyTacs and everything else that you HUNT with. A scope is supposed to be a SIGHT and the shooting is up to the shooter to learn. KISS rule all the way.

All that fancy stuff does have a place in shooting, but not very often in hunting. It's just more stuff to make mistakes with. As a guide I have seen such mistakes so many times that I can't believe others are not demanding the same kind of scope I just described.

The K4 and K6 are the closest thing to it on the market today.

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I don't know about where you guys buy your rings and bases, or what you prefer...

But as far as a K 4 or K 6 not being able to be put on a long action...

The ones I have, have all spent time on long action rifles...predominantly
model 70s...but also Rugers..

on the Model 70s, I just used Weaver rings and Leupold rifleman bases...
Weaver also offers an extended base and ring, which I have used on a couple of
long action Model 700s over the last 30 years...

I've owned as many Weaver K series and V series as I have Leupold scopes...
The Weavers had better tracking on the adjustments for sure...

and then when I bought mine, the K series was $99 and the V series was usually $119, unless on sale
for $99.. via Mid South or Natchez...


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Originally Posted by Seafire
I don't know about where you guys buy your rings and bases, or what you prefer...

But as far as a K 4 or K 6 not being able to be put on a long action...

The ones I have, have all spent time on long action rifles...predominantly
model 70s...but also Rugers..

on the Model 70s, I just used Weaver rings and Leupold rifleman bases...
Weaver also offers an extended base and ring, which I have used on a couple of
long action Model 700s over the last 30 years...

I've owned as many Weaver K series and V series as I have Leupold scopes...
The Weavers had better tracking on the adjustments for sure...

and then when I bought mine, the K series was $99 and the V series was usually $119, unless on sale
for $99.. via Mid South or Natchez...


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Big Weaver straight 4 or 6 guy. But at dusk and dawn even a leupold vx-1 wins.


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Originally Posted by Shag
Big Weaver straight 4 or 6 guy. But at dusk and dawn even a leupold vx-1 wins.
Haven't compared a K-4 or K-6 side by side with one of my vx-1's but have just recently compared a V-10 and a VX-1 side by side at dusk and the V-10 was slightly but clearly better. Have also compared my K-2.5 and VX-1 1-4X20 side by side with the VX-1 set at 2.5x and the K-2.5 wins without a doubt.

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Shag,

I ran a new 6x38 through my night-time chart test in 2014, and it rated better than a new Leupold VX-2.


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Originally Posted by centershot
Anyone have experience with these? Would like to try a fixed 6X rifle scope and Leupolds are getting pretty expensive. Wondering if this would be a worthy option. Thanks.

I tried one and thought it fell too far short of the Leupolds, besides the attractive price. Eyebox was too tight, critical IIRC.


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Originally Posted by Blackheart
I consider the Weaver's better than the Leupold's. Optically they are pretty close to dead even but the Weaver's adjustments are clearly better.


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I have that scope and like the optics but the eye relief is just too short for a long action bolt gun...this is most important to me in selecting a scope and is the main reason I like Leupolds. Although it seems to work fine for other shooters.

On a short action bolt gun I could live with it, but why?....the eye relief is still too short for me even on a short action.

What these Weavers have going for them is decent optics and light weight at a cheap price. The K6X38 sits in it's box now. Though I am seriously thinking of mounting it on a Ruger 77/22 squirrel rifle.


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Absolutely for the price the K6 is an excellent option to a Leupold FX II 6x36 but id still rather have the Leupold as it is a superior scope as it should be for twice the cost.......Hb

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I think they are both really good scopes. With the limitations I put a K6 on a Howa mini in 7.62x39 and a FX-ii on a Remington 721 in 300 h&h. Both work very well.


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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Yes, it's a good option. A bit tight on eye relief at times. A bit short on tube-mounting-length, which can make it a tight to impossible fit on some long actions.



Originally Posted by Blackheart
I have a bunch of the Weaver classic K and V series scopes. I also have a bunch of Leupold VX-I's and II's. Aside from the shorter eye relief that DakotaDeer mentions, I consider the Weaver's better than the Leupold's. Optically they are pretty close to dead even but the Weaver's adjustments are clearly better.



My thoughts also.


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