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I have a Ruger MKII 22-250 1-14" twist. Scope is a Leupy 4-12x40 CDS. I want to use it to snipe coyotes out to 600. I'm torn between putting a new scope on it that I can dial with and keep shooting 55gr bullets, or putting a fast twist barrel on it and using the same scope.
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600 yards is stretching a 14tw 22-250 for sure , especially out where I'm sure the wind blows at a pretty good clip .
If glassing winter coyotes at long range or shooting at sitters that won't come to the call is your plan I'd go with a different cartridge altogether . I know that's not what you asked but ...
A 243 shooting an 87gr. vmax is a great long range coyote whacker , just an opinion .
I don't know much about the CDS scopes long range small target performance .
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I don't know your weather or how well your gun shoots. If it's accurate and wind isn't too bad I'd shoot 50gr nbt or vmax and get a swfa scope in either 6x 10x or 3-9.
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MH Wash, change your wants to 450 yards, work up a good load with varget or Win 760 and 55g Nosler and keep trucking till the barrel is shot out.
I shot a few at 550 with a 22/250 AI, 27" #5 contour, with 12Twist shooting the 60g Bergers at 3700. The 243 AI with a 27' barrel will shoot bug holes in a 12T shooting the 70g Noslers at 3800.
The Ruger magazine is not very long, so watch those vld bullets as you will not be able to get them in the magazine and touch the lands which is critical for 600 yard varmint shooting(shooting plates is a lot different).
If you had a long action, i would recommend the 6 Remington AI and shoot the 70g Noslers at 4100, you need flat shooting for coyotes, and little if any shots will allow you to use a range finder.
All of these calibers are very, very user friendly, have great barrel life, easy to work up a load for.
I used zero freebore reamers for all three of these calibers...key to long barrel life, but on heavy long bullets, you have to have freebore.
If you want to shoot 87g, go to a 6/284 or 6 Remington, both of which are best on long actions...I learned the hard way. Those 87's love being near or on the lands, don't let anyone blow smoke up your ying yang about that.
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6-284 would make a spectacular LR coyote thumper .
I'm considering it if/when my 25-06 barrel is shot out , or a 6mm 06AI or Gibbs .
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Honestly I would rebarrel to 1-8 and use 70 gr bergers if you're able... 70 gr bergers around 3400 MV are no joke at 600 yards..
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Now Sierra has a .224" 95gr BTHP. I'm guessing for the 224 Valkyrie.
Might go 1/7.
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I in 8 with a 62 Barnes. I use them in my 1 in 8 223. Kills pigs dead at 250. Should be awesome in a 22-250
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Buy some WW 64 gr power points (component bullets) and work a load up to 3400-3500 fps and see how they work. Sure worked on antelope for me in my MkII stainless boatpaddle 77. MB
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IF you can find them ( it looks like they stopped production...) Hornady made a 52 gr. Amax specifically for 1 in 14 twists...it'll get you there...
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600 yards is stretching a 14tw 22-250 for sure , especially out where I'm sure the wind blows at a pretty good clip .
If glassing winter coyotes at long range or shooting at sitters that won't come to the call is your plan I'd go with a different cartridge altogether . I know that's not what you asked but ...
A 243 shooting an 87gr. vmax is a great long range coyote whacker , just an opinion .
I don't know much about the CDS scopes long range small target performance . >> this guy is right-on .buy a 243 Winchester,i did from Norene Firearms in a A-10
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I love my .22-250's and Swifts.. They have killed a number of coyotes around 600 yards.. But when I am seriously considering reaching out that far for coyotes, I carry either my .25-06 or 7mm mag.. If I find an action, I may put a .257 Wea. together.. A good ,270 is also a winner.. Have tried several .243's.. Some love em but when I leave the .22-250 class rifle, I want a bigger case than the 243..
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I've banged steel out to 650 with my 22-250 and 55NBT going 3600fps. The only issue is how much wind affects them. To the OP, I'd rebarrel to 7 twist and use 75gr ( this is combo in my .223) and get a scope that you can dial consistently for distance.
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Flip the Leupold and put a SWFA SS on it AND a 8” twist 22-250 barrel on it. You’ll be grinning from ear to ear.
If that won’t work for you, put a good dialing scope on it and live with 55s until you shoot the barrel out.
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Simple- what do your 600 yard groups look like? usually takes a rem/Krieger to get the accuracy needed.
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I am running a 223ai, brux 8tw on a 700 with a 4-18 LRHSI. When I switched to the rdf's I started stretching it out a bunch. Last year's best was around 750yds with this rig and I can pound 600 yard dogs with alarming regularity.
I'm not sold on the rdf as the best bullet for spectacular instant kills, but well placed shots kill pretty consistent for me. I'm looking at trying to uniform the meplats to see if it aids bullet upset, getting me exactly what I want....if not, being able to connect on sub 800 yard dogs is good enough.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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Lots of opinions and options, I like that.
I think I'll start with a new scope and try out some of these different load options. I'll try some of the .243 loads mentioned in the wife's currently unused rifle. I really enjoy shooting the 22-250 so haven't given the 243 much thought, plus the 243 is blued/wood and usually when I'm out the weather is wet, or I'm crawling around in snow.
Wind is almost always a factor, hence my thinking a heavy in the -250 would be advantageous.
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There are lots of new, or slightly used, Ruger 77 take-off barrels around and since Ruger barrels have a flat barrel tenon face, they are easier, therefore less expensive, to headspace. You could inexpensively rebarrel to 243 or get a faster twist 223 barrel and have it rechambered to 22-250.
When I wanted an inexpensive 1-9" ROT 22-250, I rechambered a 223 barrel from a Stevens 200 and screwed it into a Marlin XS7 action. It works as well as any 1-9" ROT 22-250 and everyone who I've done this job for has liked it, although some of the barrels seem to be more bullet brand/style/weight/length sensitive than others.
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Lots of opinions and options, I like that.
I think I'll start with a new scope and try out some of these different load options. I'll try some of the .243 loads mentioned in the wife's currently unused rifle. I really enjoy shooting the 22-250 so haven't given the 243 much thought, plus the 243 is blued/wood and usually when I'm out the weather is wet, or I'm crawling around in snow.
Wind is almost always a factor, hence my thinking a heavy in the -250 would be advantageous. I'm just north of you in Reardan and I been uber impressed with the rdf's bc in the wind. It makes a 55 vmax look like a boomerang.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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The majority of guys never find out just how deadly the 22/250 can be because as coming from the factory all the barrels are usually 1-14 twist designed for shooting the light bullets! I have a 1-7" ROT that shoots excellent using the Sierra 90 gr. VLD using 35.5 gr. H4350! If a yote stops and looks back from 600....his ass is grass!!
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I love my .22-250's and Swifts.. They have killed a number of coyotes around 600 yards.. But when I am seriously considering reaching out that far for coyotes, I carry either my .25-06 or 7mm mag.. If I find an action, I may put a .257 Wea. together.. A good ,270 is also a winner.. Have tried several .243's.. Some love em but when I leave the .22-250 class rifle, I want a bigger case than the 243.. Wisely spoken unless you happen to live in a windless area, if there is such a thing. At that range even my 25-06 1:10 twist takes a back seat to my 270 with good BC. Used a 7mm Rem Mag Colt Light Rifle done by Melvin for years but I don't tolerate recoil well anymore.
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