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Posting for BillR: Top 99T 300 Savage 372XXX ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/EI5qrXe.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/ViFs25m.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/3Vxv6xm.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i.imgur.com/IcIdK8f.jpg) Bottom 99 RT 30-30 426XXX
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I would really like to find an RT in 30-30 someday. Savage 99s in 30-30 are multiplying in my house like rabbits.
Both are beautiful rifles there.
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Very nice rifles! I think iv only seen one RT for sale and I bought it, it now lives in N.H.
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I really appreciate the two side by side to compare. A few subtle differences in checkering front and back, buttplates, forearm profiles, etc. Those are breathtaking.
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“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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Beautiful.
Sadly, it appears 99 Savages were never very popular here in Tennessee. The ones that were here seemed to gravitate toward Bubba.
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Both are very nice pre war/war models. File this under why didn't they do that; The pre war R and RS both have their combs notched, making for a sweet looking rifle to my eyes. Why not the T? Savage went to the trouble to do a special fore end for the T why not add a little more cost/effort and notch the comb? Its a small complaint.
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I've been talking to Bill, he's been having a hard time posting on here so he more or less just gave up.
I'm guessing thats why Bert posted the pics of his guns for him.
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That a pair that beats a full house !!  beautiful rifles. Don
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Very nice in deed!
Nice to compare!
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For those of us who don't know, whats the difference between an R and RT.? Judging from the photos the only difference I can see is the checkering pattern on the forearm, with the latter looking like a forearm from a post-war R. But both appear to have pre-war receivers. I've heard of Rs and RSs, but not RTs. Both are remarkable specimens!
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Sure wish Bill would get online. He's having software issues and asked me to post these beauties. It's a little hard to notice but if you look carefully you'll note the front sight on the "T" is the red version. 
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For those of us who don't know, whats the difference between an R and RT.? Judging from the photos the only difference I can see is the checkering pattern on the forearm, with the latter looking like a forearm from a post-war R. But both appear to have pre-war receivers. I've heard of Rs and RSs, but not RTs. Both are remarkable specimens! Also, looks to me like the tip of the forearm of the T is a bit larger and squarer/blunt vs the RT.
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The primary identifier for me is a T forearm with R checkering. But there are other things....Serial numbers from during the war, 22” barrels in calibers that should have 24” barrels if it was an R, caliber (30-30) in a rifle that are numbered after Savage quit chambering rifles in that caliber...
There is probably more, but that what I see.
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For those of us who don't know, whats the difference between an R and RT.? Judging from the photos the only difference I can see is the checkering pattern on the forearm, with the latter looking like a forearm from a post-war R. But both appear to have pre-war receivers. I've heard of Rs and RSs, but not RTs. Both are remarkable specimens! RT is a made up name which was concocted by this forum, I believe. Savage never cataloged an RT. David Royal's book has info on the RT on pgs. 83 &84. As of 8/28/2016 Rick 99 had data on 24 RT rifles in varying calibers and barrel lengths. There is no concrete info, that I know of, about why Savage made this variation which was made close to the time that Savage was about to move the plant from Utica to Chicopee Falls. It is clear to me from Rick's info that some, if not all, of these rifles were made up from barrels that Savage must have had in stock and were trying to use up before the move. That does not explain the reason for the different forearm style, however. Were these a special order for a distributor or ??? We don't know. I have an RT in .30-30 with a 22" barrel, s/ 432XXX. Both the front of the frame and the bottom of the barrel of this are stamped with a 5. I have no idea of the significance of this stamping.
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In addition to the checkering pattern being different the forearm is wider and flatter on the bottom of an "RT". If you have one of each in hand you can notice a distinct difference in the dimensions of the forearm. There was an old thread a few years ago where Phill99 (Rod) took the time to measure the dimension of the 2 forearms with a caliper and there were marked differences. Maybe somebody with better 24hourcampfire skills than I have can find that old thread. They are really cool guns and a mystery lost to history, which makes them double cool IMO.
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In addition to the checkering pattern being different the forearm is wider and flatter on the bottom of an "RT". If you have one of each in hand you can notice a distinct difference in the dimensions of the forearm. There was an old thread a few years ago where Phill99 (Rod) took the time to measure the dimension of the 2 forearms with a caliper and there were marked differences. Maybe somebody with better 24hourcampfire skills than I have can find that old thread. They are really cool guns and a mystery lost to history, which makes them double cool IMO. I think this is it: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...s/8001715/The_99_RT_What_do_we_know_for_
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