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On Saturday I found a "used" Savage 92 in 17 HMR. If it was used I couldn't tell and for less than $200.00 out the door. Mounted a scope over the weekend, grabbed a box of ammo at Dicks on the way and headed to the range this afternoon. I sighted the rifle to hit dead on at 25 yds. and took the target to 100 yds. 3 shots you could cover with a nickel and about an inch high just like the ballistics table said. I specifically bought this rifle for trigger time and targets of opportunity when out hiking/scouting. Too much fun. I never had a rimfire rifle this accurate. Next up one of those swinging gongs, for rimfires, that I can practice with this summer. Where was this caliber when I lived in PA and shot 100s of groundhogs, I could have saved a fortune!
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Where was this caliber when I lived in PA and shot 100s of groundhogs, I could have saved a fortune! you wouldn't have been killing 100's of groundhogs then
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Those who are always shooting off at the mouth usually aren't shooting straight. Build a man a fire and he’ll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life. www.wvcdl.org
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no kiddin'.....
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Been thinking along the same lines myself: cheap ammo and good out to over 100 without worrying about hold-over, plus accuracy right up there (or better) than match .22s.
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I don't know that I have ever heard of a 17HMR that wasn't accurate. Most of them are silly accurate.
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IMHO the last several years have provided us with several cartridges " 204 Ruger,17 HMR and the 17 MK " that are EXTREMELY accurate. I believe that creators (Hornady) did their homework on these items before releasing them to the public.rate.
As with the HMR it is HARD 2 find a 204 that is not accurate.
Too bad Winchester and Salvage did not spend more time on the 17 WSM
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I've got an old Marlin 17V, probably from the first batch ever made (2002), that regularly shoots 5/8" groups at 100 yards, with a Hubble scope. I can't see well enough to do that with it's normal Burris FFII 3-9 on it, on a regular basis. I have squeaked out a couple .25" groups with it, but not regularly. I had a local gunbutcher work on the trigger, and I glassed it. It's a fun, fun gun. Prairie dogs do not like it, groundhogs do not like it, and prairie rattlers don't like it, either. OTOH, I love the little stinker.
Homely it is, but it shoots beautifully, and that's what it's about
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I have a Marlin 917V that is scary accurate as well. It will rival a good centerfire at 100 with no problem. I put it in a Boyds laminate and it fits me great. Looks a lot better than the original hardwood stock. That gun has whacked a bunch of praire dogs.
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There isn't much difference in accuracy between my $700 Anschutz 1517 and my $190 Marlin 917S.
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I've got an old Marlin 17V, probably from the first batch ever made (2002), that regularly shoots 5/8" groups at 100 yards, with a Hubble scope. I can't see well enough to do that with it's normal Burris FFII 3-9 on it, on a regular basis. I have squeaked out a couple .25" groups with it, but not regularly. I had a local gunbutcher work on the trigger, and I glassed it. It's a fun, fun gun. Prairie dogs do not like it, groundhogs do not like it, and prairie rattlers don't like it, either. OTOH, I love the little stinker.
Homely it is, but it shoots beautifully, and that's what it's about I have a Marlin 917, and you got the homely part right! Boy, does that ugly sucker shoot! It's actually incredible.
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We use them for p-dogs to 175 with no problem. Kill really well. Doping the wind is fun, they do better than You would think.
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I busted a pdog at 187 last summer. Slight breeze, had the elevation, but took 3 shots to get the wind doped. My buddy was amazed.
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I actually have a 250 yard kill with my HMR. I caught a PD on a mound almost exactly downwind one time, and with the Ballistic Plex reticle in the Burris, I held on him with the "250 yard" hash mark in the scope, and squeezed off a shot. Tipped him right over, and he laid there kicking for a couple of minutes. At that point, I decided to keep any other shots under 175 yards. The rifle/cartridge is plenty accurate enough to HIT them, but lacks the pizzazz to do the job cleanly. It's just not enough gun to do much past 175.
It doesn't change my feelings toward the cartridge/rifle combo, it's funner than it needs to be, and that's all I need or want out of it.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
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One day before I die am am going to do a Prairie Dog hunt.
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Go for it, I highly recommend it! Take a LOT of ammo, and a LOT of different guns. Don't cook barrels, swap them out often, and have more fun than you should. Do your research first, though, some of the more famous locations have gone lead-free (Rosebud Sioux Reservation, for example), and you don't want to drive all the way up there and then not be able to shoot.
I've only made a half-dozen trips up that way, but they were memorable...............
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I've kilt a bunch of fox at 200 yds on a den. Only one was able to make it down. I shot a coyote at just over 200. Thought I must have missed, as he took off running. Went azz over teakettle after about a 50-60 yard run, lunged 'im.....
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I too have a post here about my recently acquired 17HMR anschutz 1517. Accuracy at 100 was nearly impossible to comprehend, enlarged single hole. At 150 it was 5 shots into two holes one above the other. I would say it's the most accurate gun I've ever shot at 100 yards, without any question.
Not only is it that accurate but the bimart has 50 rounds of CCI for 8 bucks a box. Why use a centerfire? I cannot hand-load more accurate or less expensive ammo. Any idiot can look like a marksman with this rifle. I have had .22 rimfires that were stupid accurate, but the entertainment value was limited to 50-60 yards. This triples or quadruples that range, now we have an entertaining rifle!
The velocity at 100 yards with the 17 is higher than the .22RF at the muzzle with a much better BC getting it to 200 well ahead of the .22RF at 100. I need the perfect scope now. I would like a BDC crosshair and 16 power at the high end. 44-50mm obj although if I had to 40 mm would work. I can imagine a BDC with 50 yard drop increments built in. This would be the sweetest mini sniper rifle! Kinda like the Vortex Viper HS 4-16 X44
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Speaking to a firearm industry friend of mine last night, the question came up, imagine a bullet like the barnes TSX or competitive equal in this tiny cartridge. It would change the lethal impact of this by a significant margin. He said that the equipment to manufacture is the limit right now because they cannot make a cavity easliy in that tiny bullet.
However it's being considered and may at some point be a viable product. His interest was in the centerfire 17 caliber cartridges which go 4000 fps and need this bullet even more!
www.huntingadventures.netAre you living your life, or just paying bills until you die? When you hit the pearly gates I want to be there just to see the massive pile of dead 5hit at your feet. ( John Peyton)
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