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I've got a 23B 25-20 headed my way. It's been drilled and tapped on the top. Have you any of you had a 23 mounted on the top? I'm wondering what bases are the closest to the contour of the 23 receiver? I can make a set of mounts out of Weaver type blank stock but if a 700 front ring or Model 70 is the right contour it would save a lot of work. Any of you already been down this road? ?

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Weaver has em for the 23 if it was D&T for them


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I'll look in Strobel's book and see if I can find the exact ones. I have a 23B with Weaver mounts but can't see the numbers on 'em.


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The 23 series of rifles (A,AA,B, C and D) had two holes drilled and tapped on the top of the receiver at the rear. This was for a factory made peep sight. Are these the holes you are talking about? Anything else could be a bit of a crap shoot.


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S99VG, this rifle has been drilled and tapped. Looks like a #15 and #16 Weaver are what I need. Will have to see when I get the rifle in hand if the spacing is right.

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Nick Strobel's book has an old Weaver mount chart that says that the 23 takes a #16 mount (rear) and a #17 (front). Hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by riflegunbuilder
S99VG, this rifle has been drilled and tapped. Looks like a #15 and #16 Weaver are what I need. Will have to see when I get the rifle in hand if the spacing is right.


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I tinkered with scoping a 23AA (later version with 3 holes in top rear of receiver).

I found that the Weaver one piece mount for the Axis (#506 or 48347, same base different number, full picatinny style, 6 7/8") has holes that mate with the back two receiver holes on the late 23's and 19's.

The problem: the barrel/receiver is one piece and tapers from muzzle to just behind the ejection port. So, there is nothing under the front of the scope base and no hole to screw to. The base is thin and will flex. Also, the curvature is for a slightly larger diameter receiver so using just two rear screws does not stop side movement. An additional screw hole in the receiver would fix the problem but not wanting to drill holes I stopped there.

Anyone have an idea for attaching the front of the base other than tapping a hole?


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I made a scope mount for a 23D out of basic 22 dovetail stock bought from Brownells. I drilled it to match the three holes at the rear of the receiver and then cantilevered it a bit over the ejection port. Obviously you need to use 22 dovetail rings, which held well with the 22 Hornet.


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Originally Posted by S99VG
I made a scope mount for a 23D out of basic 22 dovetail stock bought from Brownells. I drilled it to match the three holes at the rear of the receiver and then cantilevered it a bit over the ejection port. Obviously you need to use 22 dovetail rings, which held well with the 22 Hornet.



I have a 23D deluxe version that has a Weaver N mount. I believe it's either N7 or N4. When I get home tonight, I'll take a look and report back. When I bought it in 20011, the consensus was that it was factory.


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Originally Posted by S99VG
I made a scope mount for a 23D out of basic 22 dovetail stock bought from Brownells. I drilled it to match the three holes at the rear of the receiver and then cantilevered it a bit over the ejection port. Obviously you need to use 22 dovetail rings, which held well with the 22 Hornet.


I too have used that dovetail stock from Brownell's for projects beyond what it's intended for. The latest venture was to adapt a 6" piece of it as a base for mounting a scope on an old German kiplauf .22 Hornet, by drilling holes to mate up to existing threaded holes in the narrow top flat of the octagon barrel, milling the bottom to reduce overall height, and then milling the sides to taper down to the width of the flat. The biggest hassle was in finding rings to fill my needs- mounting a 3/4" vintage Redfield 4x (looks like a scaled down Weaver K4). I found a set of vintage Redfield 3/4" rings of tip-off style and I was in business, and I remember there being nicely sculpted 1" rings floating around out there too that would've worked also. Joe Martin has seen (and shot) the gun.

My point is, that Brownell's tip-off dovetail stock is pretty versatile for offbeat applications. Mating it to a round receiver will require milling a radius in the bottom surface though- no big deal for a gunsmith with a mill (or better yet, a local machinist or hobbyist).


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At the time I did my 23D, about 15-years ago, Brownells sold dovetail stock that was cut with a radius on the bottom for round receivers. They offered it in two different sizes. I haven't look at a Brownells catalog in several years so it may no longer be available.


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I know this wasn't the question ,but the weaver sidemount is a number 2,just i case some here are interested. Don

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Originally Posted by Loggah
I know this wasn't the question ,but the weaver sidemount is a number 2,just i case some here are interested. Don


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Originally Posted by Longbeardking
Originally Posted by S99VG
I made a scope mount for a 23D out of basic 22 dovetail stock bought from Brownells. I drilled it to match the three holes at the rear of the receiver and then cantilevered it a bit over the ejection port. Obviously you need to use 22 dovetail rings, which held well with the 22 Hornet.



I have a 23D deluxe version that has a Weaver N mount. I believe it's either N7 or N4. When I get home tonight, I'll take a look and report back. When I bought it in 20011, the consensus was that it was factory.




A little late, but here's the picture of my rifle and Weaver mount. As you can see, it is a T1

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And this is a 23B with a Weaver 1 piece top mount, #52

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And with the scope mounted.

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Nice pair of 23's, Steve.

It would be nice to have a base that fit the rear sight dove tail and the rear holes on the receiver so you didn't have to D&T. Another item for the Wish List.


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Picking up the rifle tomorrow. Can I move the front ring on a Weaver V-8 enough to use it on the 23B do you think?


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