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Actually saw two, both .243s, for sale in GB last night. Also one .223/5.56 on Gun Genie. Looks like $400 is the ballpark street price.
Pretty nice wood on the .243s.
Also, the NRA site has a review on a "brass" shotgun (URK!🤢) and a .223/5.56. Not very comprehensive, but no malfunctions anyway.
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The accuracy of the centerfire was something I was interested in. While they were only able to shoot at 50 yards (explained in the article) it definitely shows some potential. Groups from the .4's through the .7's extrapolate to .8's up to 1.4" but that was factory ammo and what I understand to be five shot groups, not three. NRA Review
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Five shots is pretty standard and then I want to see 4 groups (NRA 5, box ammo =4). Some prefer 10 shots but; I feel to much information is lost. Certainly acceptable and proper to allow some time to cool between shots. Thank you for posting the review. The NRA is till my most trusted source for reviews, short of having a friend or club member or my own Good write up. I would call this a solid 1 moa performer. I dont care about the worse ammo. The rifle is 223 - so that probably helps in the accuracy dept. The best performer of the test set was Norma USA's 77-gr. Sierra Match King hollow point boat tail load with a best single group of 0.44" with an average of 0.53". The report 6 pound trigger pull and note the weight (bare rifle) is over 7 pounds. Pretty close to varmint weight for a 223, but not unreasonable for something like 45/70 or any over 30 caliber option. I may give one a try if I can just decide on what caliber would fill what nitch? I wish it was more like 5 pounds. That would make a handy woods rifle in 44mag.
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Am I a true looney for thinking that I want one in .243 or .308 that is immediately sent off to JES for a .358 rebore?
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.243 and .308 always read .358 to me...
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Am I a true looney for thinking that I want one in .243 or .308 that is immediately sent off to JES for a .358 rebore? You maybe loony, but; not crazy. That should make a dandy 358. Just for my notebook, who is JES?
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Reeds had a 44 Magnum with absolutely gorgeous wood about a month or so ago. I am mad at myself for not buying it.
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thanks Mitch, book marked.
I though it would be more cost. Not bad 225 or so...
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I was looking at the .44 Mag. Anyone know who has the single shots for sale?
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I was looking at the .44 Mag. Anyone know who has the single shots for sale? They are few and far between at this point.
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There are a FEW on GunBroker.
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Id like to see them do a 22 or 17 Hornet.....Once they get production up and running better.
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I hope they make a .41magnum.........but they would probably be ridiculously expensive like all other .41 rifles.
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I hope they make a .41magnum.........but they would probably be ridiculously expensive like all other .41 rifles. I would spring for one of those for sure, they do make a 41 lever gun so there is hope for a single shot.
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Has anyone noticed how high off the tang the release lever is? I handled one at Reeds and it was the first thing I noticed about the gun. I asked if they were all like that and he just nodded. Besides being very fugly I can see it being a problem. One good whack and it could break off.
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If it's cast or MIM, it might very well break off.
I was hot for these, but have cooled off. I want to handle one before I buy, that's for sure.
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Has anyone noticed how high off the tang the release lever is? I handled one at Reeds and it was the first thing I noticed about the gun. I asked if they were all like that and he just nodded. Besides being very fugly I can see it being a problem. One good whack and it could break off. The tang isn't a particularly vulnerable area is it?
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Has anyone noticed how high off the tang the release lever is? I handled one at Reeds and it was the first thing I noticed about the gun. I asked if they were all like that and he just nodded. Besides being very fugly I can see it being a problem. One good whack and it could break off. The tang isn't a particularly vulnerable area is it? Murphy's law...
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Industry scuttlebutt is that Henry bought a bunch of Remington 700 bolt handles and with some modifications re-purposed them as release levers, so they should be unbreakable... Kidding aside, I am still optimistic about these but like Pappy348 would like to see one in hand before making up my mind.
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